Obama Did Use GCHQ To Spy On Trump

Interesting:

During a Tuesday morning appearance on Fox News’ “Fox and Friends,” Napolitano, a former New Jersey Superior Court judge, made the bombshell claim that “three intelligence sources” told the network that Obama used GCHQ, a British intel agency, to spy on the Trump campaign in order to avoid any record of the alleged wiretapping.

“Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command. He didn’t use the NSA, he didn’t use the CIA, he didn’t use the FBI and he didn’t use the Department of Justice,” Napolitano said. “He used GCHQ.”

According to the Fox analyst, GCHQ has “24-hour access” to the NSA’s database.

“So by simply having two people go to them saying, ‘President Obama needs transcripts of conversations involving candidate Trump, conversations involving President-elect Trump,’ he’s able to get it,” Napolitano told host Brian Kilmeade. “And there’s no American fingerprints on this.”

Napolitano said the individual who actually ordered the alleged surveillance under Obama’s direction “resigned three days after Donald Trump was inaugurated.”

The guy who resigned was a leftist plant who clearly knew this was wrong, but who figured when Hillary was elected he would quickly rise through the ranks to a leadership position. He is probably doing much the same work now at a private contractor owned by a leftist, doing work for the DNC and leftist elites. And there are probably several thousand more like him still employed in the federal apparatus.

I would not think Obama would do this, if it were not done routinely on other Americans. If this were never done, then setting up a special deal with a foreign agency to spy on Trump would risk all sorts of exposure, as each person in the chain confronted this totally unprecedented action.

If however, tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of Americans are routinely spied upon this way, they it becomes much easier to throw Trump’s name in the pile. Again, Trump was probably seen as a minor threat back that early in the process. I’m sure Stefan Molyneux, Vox Day, Cernovich, Bill Whittle, Heartiste, and Steve Sailor were all seen as potentially much more dangerous over the long term. Have no doubt, the alt-right was viewed as being in serious need of government control.

Part of the interest of this to me is I will bet there were fifteen or twenty operations targeting President Trump, being done by partisans in different agencies. I will bet they targeted everything from emails and phone intercepts to buggings of hotel rooms and humint penetrations targeting people in his inner circle. Right now the President has one thread. But that thread may lead to many others. If he triggers a major investigation, there is no telling what may come to light.

Given President Trump’s battles to bring this into the open, I am thinking the alt-right is probably still under attack. The government doesn’t work like we were told.

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3 Responses to Obama Did Use GCHQ To Spy On Trump

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  2. pavetack says:

    The “news” in this news is that Obama bypassed the official conduits to get the information, not that the collection/collusion was going on.

    Using GHCQ to get info on citizens is an old trick. It was invented by the NSA back when they interpreted the law against spying on American citizens more strictly. They also use/used the Australians. The information flow was/is two way.

    Among the info leaked by Snowden was the fact that the NSA paid GCHQ $100 million for technical assistance: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/01/nsa-paid-gchq-spying-edward-snowden.

    A UK tribunal ruled that the GCHQ use of NSA information was illegal (https://www.privacyinternational.org/node/482). Instread of prosecuting anyone, it was deemed legal as of 12/2014.

    PS – If you’re interested in NSA naughtiness, follow James Bamford. His “The Puzzle Palace” from 1982 was one of the first attempts to shine light on the subject.

  3. Jeff Wood says:

    I cannot now remember the source, but I seem to have known for a couple of decades that GCHQ spied on you Cousins, and the NSA spied on us, in the cause of back-scratching deniability. At the time, the impression given was that it was all targeted at known and potential subversives. Maybe no more was possible at the time.

    If I heard correctly, there is a significant US contingent at GCHQ, and they might be responsible for the surveillance of the American population.

    A cosy arrangement, and I have no trouble giving consideration to the proposition that Obama used us to spy on President Trump. The Don met Theresa May early, and I am sure he took the chance to get a fuller briefing, at least at a more junior level.

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