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DFT – India Considers Banning Ethanol Production Amid Sugar Shortage
DFT – Robinhood To Offer Commission-Free Crypto Trading In The EU
DFT – China Seeks To Tone Down Talk Of China-EU Trade War
DFT – Another Country Adopts Russia’s Mir Payment Card System
DFT – Oil Continues To Fall, As Signs Of A Slowdown Point To Rate Cuts In 2024
Speaker Johnson worked with Chuck Schumer to cut a deal that removes all abortion and trans surgery prohibitions we passed under Speaker McCarthy. It also would pass a CLEAN FISA extension.
Not to mention, more of your taxpayer dollars sent to Ukraine to fund the proxy war.
No member of the NDAA conference had any influence on this process. It was done in secret meetings with no input from conferees.
Now, we’re supposed to just grin and take it with no say in the final bill.
Is the GOP really going to fund abortion vacations and trans surgeries, fund the Ukraine war, all with a CLEAN FISA extension under Speaker Johnson?
This was a total sell-out of conservative principles and a huge win for Democrats.
This NDAA also took out our Republican provision giving a pay raise to Junior military members E1-E6!!
They are barely surviving and some being forced on food stamps under Biden’s crippling inflation!!
HORRIBLE closed room deal!
Great victory for Biden and the Democrats!
Biden campaign REFUSES to commit to the 2024 presidential debates: Top official says they will look at 81-year-old’s schedule and will have ‘conversations.’ He must be deteriorating fast.
NZ vaccine data whistleblower could face up to 7 years in prison.
Signal facing collapse after CIA cuts funding. If there is an app they are telling you is secure, and a threat to the machine, it will be their app, and they will be running it. If not, the founder would be killed and the project crashed.
Top Republican floats contempt of Congress vote against Hunter Biden for refusing to testify behind closed doors. Hunter says he will testify in open hearings, but not behind closed doors. I almost wonder if it is Hunter threatening to out their secrets in the open, and they want to take it behind closed doors so they can be sure nothing embarrassing to them gets aired. They are all corrupt.
Biden used shadow email account to exchange hundreds of messages with Hunter’s business partner.
Tucker will interview ALEX JONES tomorrow. None of these guys will ever broach the surveillance. At least not now when it matters. I think we have gotten too far though, and it is coming out, maybe in no small part due to this site and all of you. The trajectory is clear, and I refuse to believe it is entirely unrelated to us here. Once the threshold is crossed and it begins to break, expect these characters to turn the volume up to 10 and be the loudest voices denouncing it, and telling everyone about it. The shift will happen suddenly, probably more so than anyone would expect, and sooner too, because we will make headway, little by little, and see a finish line agonizingly far away, but the moment Cabal realizes we are going to make it to that finish line, it will jump to get in front of it and order its mouthpieces to seize the microphone and be the loudest voices screaming about it. When the dust clears, we may end up totally unknown, though our role will probably have been the most vital and determinative of all in forcing their hand. I suppose you can be real and unknown in this life, and have an effect, or you can be famous, and fake and gay, just pretending to be somebody. Who do you think we are, in that schema, anons? We will win, and in our lifetimes.
Congressman Kevin McCarthy is leaving Congress before the end of 2023. Seat is in a blue state, leaves us with an even thinner majority. Shows McCarthy was always a traitor.
Nikki Haley: Government shouldn’t ban child sex changes.
Apple confirms governments using push notifications to surveil users.
Per CBP sources, there were more than 12,000 migrant encounters at the southern border yesterday, the highest single day total ever recorded. That would be 4.3 mil per year, not counting the ones who they don’t encounter – and it is accelerating.
Illegal alien crosses border, immediately declares ‘I love you, Joe Biden!’ – video.
House report: FBI continues to consider issuing a warning about ‘radical traditionalist Catholics.’
With ‘conversion switch’ devices, machine guns return to U.S. streets. Small thing you plug into a Glock, and it fires full auto. I mean, if local PD was allowed to do its thing, everyone who had one would be off the streets for a good long time in a few months, and crime would plummet. But local PD is locked down, vis a vis Derek Chauvin, as whatever this thing is, lets chaos reign.
Canadian mayor suddenly collapses while giving a press conference on live TV.
You tend to think Q was a psyop at times, but when he posted things like this, which sound totally nuts, but which are uncanny in their accuracy and truth, you are forced to think, why would he post this, and risk waking people up to what is really the most amazing truth of all:
Mass shooter at UNLV – “The man suspected of fatally shooting three people and wounding another at a Las Vegas university Wednesday was a professor who unsuccessfully sought a job at the school, a law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the investigation told The Associated Press.”
Wikipedia co-founder no longer recommends his online encyclopedia.
California to receive $6 billion federal investment for high-speed rail. They have already had piles of cash dumped on them for this thing, and accomplished nothing on it. All of this money will disappear too.
FBI aware of “numerous Cuban spies within the U.S. government” – From the piece, a description of one they caught:
… a former ambassador who had spent 40 years spying for Cuba and considered America the enemy….
…Rocha repeatedly referred to the US as “the enemy” and praised Cuban revolutionary and politician Fidel Castro, according to court documents.
During their first meeting, Rocha allegedly told the undercover employee that the Cuban intelligence agency, called the Dirección General de Inteligencia, “asked me … to lead a normal life,” and said that he has “created the legend of a right-wing person.”
He allegedly added: “My number one concern; my number one priority was … any action on the part of Washington that would – would endanger the life of — of the leadership, or the — or the revolution itself.”
During another meeting several weeks later, Rocha allegedly described obtaining his State Department employment to the undercover employee, saying “I went little by little … It was a very meticulous process … very disciplined – but very disciplined.”
UN chief Guterres invokes Article 99 of charter over Gaza crisis. It will bring in the Security Council, but it is doubtful Israel would pay any mind to what they say.
Sweden signs defense pact granting US access to all Scandinavian military bases.
Britons should stock up on torches and candles in case of power cuts, says Dowden. Also set aside a few thousand pounds, each of you, for the new migrants, because the government is going to need it to buy them all suitable Christmas gifts and give them vacation cash to head back home for the holidays to see family. First Class, of course.
Outrage in Italy as jeweler who shot dead two crooks who tied up his daughter and robbed his store is jailed for 17 years. I have wondered, in some cases, the 17 seems like a mark that something is for show. Like it is a message to their’s, don’t take this seriously, it is just to manipulate the plebes. Like if this was an actor, and the trial was a show trial, and he is getting retired to a little village in Tahiti for 17 years, and it is all just a show to tell the public you can’t fight back against the criminals, or to create a stress they want to create or something. File it away, and see if in the future you begin to get that impression.
Here, is this Nikki Haley’s way of telling her own that she knows this is ridiculous bullshit? – Nikki Haley: “For every 30 minutes that someone watches TikTok, every day, they become 17% more anti-Semitic.” It might be like a rhetorical crossing of the fingers, which Cabal can see, but we cannot.
Germany seeing massive increase in bankruptcies. And they can’t turn the Nord Stream pipeline back on. Literally, everybody’s leaders in the West are utterly betraying them.
Ukraine assassinates former politician who criticized Zelensky, in Moscow, calling him a ‘traitor, collaborator.’ These are the same people who took power from Soros and Cabal, after overturning an elected president, and sent 1.1 million young men to die as they are purchasing luxury yachts.
US Senate sets test vote on Ukraine aid despite Republican opposition.
US files first-ever war crime charges accusing Russian soldiers of torturing American in Ukraine. Invariably, whether it is Trump or Russia, they always accuse you of what they are guilty of.
U.S. sends another $175 million in weapons to Ukraine.
Senate Republicans block assault weapons ban, background checks bill.
Biden’s job approval erodes further amid economic concerns: poll.
National polls: Trump towers over Haley, DeSantis in head-to-heads; leads full GOP field with two-thirds support. Trump should reach out to Governor David Patterson about being VP. You cannot say anything for sure, but it would appear, Patterson hates the machine, has the balls to fight it, would work tirelessly to tear it down, and it would be a good way to expose the surveillance to the Democrats, and show what a threat it is to their side too. Assuming Patterson has not been replaced by a lookalike in a latex mask with an earpiece. Just the spreading the rumor would cause Cabal heads to explode, because they would all instantly know what the two of them linking up would mean.
TESLA KNEW The Secret of the Great Pyramid: Unlimited Energy to Power the World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU49FSIx0_g
Tesla was far ahead of his time, so I wouldn’t dismiss this idea out of hand, as several authors have theorized that the great Pyramid, or what remains of it, was, in fact, a giant power plant of some sort.
Once you dig into the details of the theory, it’s not as weird as it sounds.
look at the construction and steeples/bells of churches pre 1900 also. all destroyed and discontinued for a reason. in foreign wars izzy and their proxies also dedtroy historical and religious sites and artifacts. / the hebes of old interbred with “amalekites” and took on their ways. add that to their own murderous ways and… you get indiscriminate machine-killing, abortion pre and post birth – in gaza etc…
For those looking for an alternative explanation for Nuclear weapons (I’m open minded)
The Most Destructive Weapon Tesla Ever Made
https://youtu.be/Wnx-uM5Rn60
The Dustifyer. Aka the matter decoherence interferometer.
Makes buildings disappear.
May be related to the MH370 ‘teleporter’.
“Biden wants to essentially ban Christians from adopting foster care children based on their religious beliefs and opposition to radical LGBTQ ideology.”
Biden’s handlers want to doom little children to being abused by sexual deviants, with almost zero recourse for the kids because it will be their adoption “parents” that are destroying their lives.
This combines 2 of the sins that cry out to God for vengeance. Won’t be long now – we are IMO at the level of intentional malice and evil in a “society” that, historically, has prompted God to intervene to save the children/purge the perverts.
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“One of the most famous short sellers, Carson Block of Muddy Waters, is shorting Blackstone Mortgage Trust – a lender to commercial real estate owners and developers.”
Commercial RE. This is a tell that shows how they plan in advance. The riots in 2020 (and the destruction of commercial RE during the riots) were not organic events that erupted spontaneously because average Americans were outraged by the fake murder of a real criminal.
No, not at all. The rioters are paid/trained agitators, following orders. The RE owners who lost big in 2020 naturally filed claims. And I bet these RE lenders saw their stocks plummet because of this.
So it looks like the planned violence by paid actors will be unleashed very soon.
all classic yahoodi ops.
DHS Chief Mayorkas says building border wall, limiting asylum is “violence to our fundamental values.”
The “our” is quite ambigious, isn’t it? No! The “our” refers to his people. He is referring to himself and his tribe. He works for Soros!
“…dangerous to OUR democracy”
The OUR is always ambiguous!
It’s clearly “their” demonocracy. It’s not our republic. It’s whatever extra national Satanic system they’ve sworn loyalty to and are trying to bring about.
https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/how-secure-is-signal-it-s-good-enough-for-edward-snowden-so-good-enough-for-you-1757596-2021-01-10
“American whistleblower Edward Snowden in a tweet has vouched for the Signal app. He noted that Signal is secure and that he uses it every day.”
And yet, he was CIA, who supposedly withdrew from special Forces Training, sent in to the Electronic Frontier Foundation. to link up with John Perry Barlow. I am pretty sure he was just a more intellectual version of Timothy McVeigh.
“I have wondered, in some cases, the 17 seems like a mark that something is for show. Like it is a message to their’s, don’t take this seriously, it is just to manipulate the plebes.”
We’ve been looking at this numerically, when maybe we should have looked at it at the design level. 1 and 7 are the numerals most easily confused in sloppy handwriting. Confusion. Project Chaos.
Aces and eights is something Miles Mathis often points out arise in these sorts of connections. I’m not sure what to make of the numerological inferences other than that these sorts of status/membership signals crop up over thousands of years. I wouldn’t be surprised in the least to find them among a cabal whose roots stretch back for centuries, at least.
Possible issue: sometimes when I try to reply to a comment, I get a 404 error. This seems to happen with Farce’s comments especially.
Farce made a comment recently about disability and how some people who are clearly ambulatory are on it. Disability is screwy. My wife has a condition that prevents her from being able to work regularly. She’s been trying to get on disability for almost 4 years. They’ve shot her down at least once, and the process is glacial. I don’t get why some people can’t get on it, while others can draw disability as fast as clicking a “Submit” button on an online form. She’s gotten sign-off from doctors and we have an acquaintance who is a paralegal who specializes in disability claims helping us, and it’s not freaking moving.
I have a tenant who is on disability. I love it, he pays the first day of every month without fail. He also owns a boxing gym where he is the head trainer. Go figure.
Yeah.
It’s like there is a great big club and you ain’t in it.
MTG says the right things, but didnt she push McCarthy?
They are all actors like Professional Wrestlers. Pick the Good Guy. Boo the Bad Guy
“NZ vaccine data whistleblower could face up to 7 years in prison”
It means he was telling truth, and that is an admission
unforgivable. as is humor. / on another note cap’n AC seems to have the ship runnning right again.
“McCarthy was always a traitor”
Better 100 enemies than 1 traitor
‘Mass shooter at UNLV.’
My friend’s daughter is a student. She thankfully wasn’t one of the victims. Scary times.
cause it was totally real, yeah? other regional universities also shut down because of it. why? why would “schools” hundreds of miles away go on alert?
theater of fear
Better yet, skip the candles and get torches and pitchforks.
I hear tar and feathers can be useful in an emergency situation.
Is Nikki telling us it only takes 3 hours for full conversion?
For SamJ, and our fellow Judeophiles: the very favorite Old Testament verse of God’s Chosen Co-Pilots. Deuteronomy 6:11!
Compared across every version of the Bible!
In my opinion, this is going to cause a lot of anti-Semitism, if folks ever begin reading the Bible! Does Phelps have an opinion about this? It’s pretty disgusting, really.
http://www.biblestudytools.com/deuteronomy/6-11-compare.html
The whole chapter really, what the KJV calls “The Greatest Commandment.” Don’t miss verse 14-15:
Looming large in the pantheon of other people’s gods, there is Mammon, the god of greed and money.
Taking the land of Canaan and being given the property of others is God’s mandate after extermination of the absolutely corrupted inhabitants there.
Who claimed they were corrupt. Who proved it. And how were they any more corrupt than the murdering, child molesting and sacrificing Jews?
GOD said it.
And where do you think the Jews picked up their evil ways?
They failed to wipe out the evil people of the land and began to adopt their evils.
Yes. It’s well known to anyone who reads the OT (more than once) tbat Yahweh promised the Israelites the land the Caananites occupied – & they’d keep it on the condition that they follow Yahweh & no other gods (which they failed to do repeatedly). If you understand the concept of Yahweh having a divine council of other created spiritual beings & that after Babel fell & the nations were portioned out under the guidance of some of them & they ended up doing shabby job earning a rebuke from Yahweh (Psalm 82) then you will understand the move & countermoves of the Israelites & neighboring nations who worshiped small “g” gods to be like a large game of spiritual chess – the taking & ceding of territory had spiritual meaning above & beyond human history of nations warring against one another. Yahweh intended to create his own nation amonst all the other nations so that his ppl group would bring light to the world via the Messiah. (The unique formation of this ppl group with Abraham & Sarah miraculously conceiving Isaac is part of that plan.) The Caananite territory was spiritually under control of one of Yahweh’s created beings who was now in opposition to Yahweh. The OT is big on sacred geography – physical places either “belonging” to Yahweh or the other gods, eg see what happened to the Ark of the Covenant once the Israelites conquered Caanan & the Ark was moved around. Of course as Yahweh created the earth this spiritual ownership of places being contested is really about the loyalty of the people inhabiting the areas – ppl with free will to decide which god to worship & serve.
This context makes sense if you accept that the other gods were not figments of ppl’s imaginations to explain natural phenomena which is modern man’s dismissive take – but actual spiritual entities in rebellious opposition to Yahweh.
When you cherrypick a verse & try to interpret it through a modern lens – especially the lens of temporal current events – you fall into a trap. The Bible was written by ancient ppl for ancient ppl & us modern ppl need to appreciate the ancient ppl’s mindset before claiming what a verse means.
E for “effort,” but you can’t expect to prove the OT using quoted matter from the OT. And that verse means exactly what it says it means, though Phelps is right that there’s more to the context than that.
“The Big Y” could have said, “I will give you this entire land, etc.”
Instead the Jews write him in as telling them in words straight out of gloating Jewish *projection.*
“Youse gonna get houses youse didn’t build…filled with all kinds of loot youse didn’t have to buy and pay for.” Etc. Pure Jew swindle-say!
“Monsters of Babylon,” my friend. Free online. At least skim it and see what jumps out at you.
The old testament is nothing but the ranting of the demon god of the Jews. Why Christians pay any attention to it befuddles me. There were several sects of Christians that believed the same. A large one in France. Cathars. Of course, they were all murdered. All of them. The demon god must have blood. Just like baal or moloch. Must have blood.
The Catharist believe that the god of the old testament was not God but a demon. Satanic. Any reading of the Old Testament with it’s “kill them all” attitude would be a point in favor of Catharism. And what did Jesus say about the Jews who followed the satanic demon god of the old testament.
Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. Which one of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God.”
– John 8:42-47 ”
– then answered the Jews — ” (which makes it clear that Christ was addressing the Jews.)
Catharist believe the material world is evil. Any one who’s stubbed their toe can attest this is true. The pope tried t get the nobles of France to kill them all but couldn’t do it because the nobles realized they were good people. So he brought in an army of outsiders, “immigrants”???, and killed them all.
Now you’re saying,”Sam J.”, you’re just a big ass dufus. Why all the big christian scholars have this all figured out. Who are you to say different”. Well me, the simpleton, has to look at things in a simple way. None of these complications for me. I can’t keep up with them all.
Now why is the demon god of the Jews a demon? Frist. Jesus says the Jews worship demons. Fairly straightforward.
Second Notice how the demon god is constantly telling the Jews to worship “no god before him”. He even has fits about sacrificing to moloch.
But notice the demon god has no problems sacrificing to him. It’s sacrificing to those “other” gods he has a problem with. And the demon god is constantly telling the Jews to kill, kill, kill everyone else that does not worship the demon god.
Third. The demon god demands blood. Constantly. Constantly.
Now let’s ask ourselves. Does God [with a capital “G”] make sense? I don’t think it’s foolish to expect so. At all. Why does GOD need sacrifices? GOD made and owns EVERYTHING. What’s he need with some burnt meat? And why would GOD want to kill everything and everyone off? And the real kicker, why would GOD pick the Jews. Some of the lyingest, most perverted, awful creatures possible to be his chosen? Well you big dummies he didn’t. It was the demon. The demon knew these parasitic, psychopathic, narcissistic, louts would lunge at the chance of a promise to own everything and have everyone be their slaves if they just worshiped the demon god and burnt a little meat every so often.
It’s all so simple. That’s why the demon had to make DAMN SURE the Carthers were crushed.
“….. believe the material world is evil. Any one who’s stubbed their toe can attest this is true”
Now I’M saying,”Sam J.”, you’re just a big ass dufus
That’s just retarded Sam, all that proves is you’re careless and solids exist and it hurts when you kick solid materials with your toe.
Here, Sam J is correct! Cathars did preach that the material world is evil. It is the “Demon God” which is the god of the OT in the words of the Gnostics. Hating Nature, the material World is the key value of Gnosticism!
>Cathars preached the material world is evil, etc.
In your opinion, what is the best reference about what the Cathars or Albigensians thought and believed?
Also, there are paintings showing the soon to be burnt (as an offering?) Cathars as blue-eyed blonds, thus being ethnically cleansed from Southern France. Do you have info about that? Thanks.
Tough to find anything about the Cathars. At one time I spent a good deal of time looking for what info I could find about them. If I remember correctly all that’s left was mostly from interviews of some surviving Cathars, maybe Women and Children, that the catholic priest had dragged in and questioned. So you have a bunch of traumatized people who have everyone slaughtered around them who are dragged before the people responsible for the slaughter, who proceed to question them. They then write up what the Cathars were about, Hardly an unbiased account. We do know the nobles who ran the areas they lived in refused to murder them and said they were good, kindly people. For this they were deposed and other nobles who did the killing got their lands.
If I remember correctly, the transcripts of interviews still existed at some point. I think, I read that someone looked at them and reported on them but I do not believe the actual reports were ever made public. No freedom of information act for the pope. It’s been a while since I looked at this stuff.
“… believe the material world is evil. Any one who’s stubbed their toe can attest this is true…”
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ironic
And GOD does not need burnt meat. If training was needed, why not have them dig wells and hoist the water to plants to bring more life to earth.
And plenty of the people that were killed were NOT giants. The giants ran the cities, but they killed everyone.
As for saying the jews predicted prophets and therefore “Jesus!”…talk about broad stretching of the meaning. That’s right up there with the guys who use satellite images of the earth to prove it’s flat.
I seem to have struck a nerve of the Judaeo-Christians but notice, glaringly, they sidestep Jesus admonition to the Jews that they worship satan. The wording is plain. Either you recognize this or not. It’s difficult to read it any other way without lots of sudo judaeo word twisting.
The burnt meat was charity for the poor and support for the priests, along with being a good old social bonding experience for the believers like a church potluck.
Any sacrifices that did not involve those were symbolic to teach important principles to a very weird and symbolism obsessed culture.
The people wiped out were all worshipping the false gods and embracing their evil.
The OT has many prophecies that are specific to Jesus Christ and which he cited to the people.
He told them if they believed the Law and the Prophets they would have believed him.
They were worshiping Satan because they rejected the law, the prophets, and him.
You cannot separate Jesus from the OT in order to get rid of the OT any more than the rabbis can in order to get rid of Jesus.
The imperfections of people recorded in the OT or in the recorders themselves do not invalidate it and you are not competent to judge GOD.
I just love it when people who are completely ignorant of the Christian faith opine on what it means. You are so far off base it’s ridiculous
Sam is a little bit right, which is wrong enough that he’s in the same camp as the jews that God had Isaiah chastise:
God has always wanted his people do good and not evil, to do justice and help the poor and downtrodden.
The sacrifices were there to remind them of that.
“Sam is a little bit right, which is wrong enough that he’s in the same camp as the jews…”
Nice try, but no one believes I’m in the same camp as the Jews. No one.
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You folks are a bundle of contradictions who take a little piece here and there and blow it up into some sort “principle” and soundly dash it into the rocks a paragraph later.
So here we have the devil god saying he doesn’t want sacrifice, but his usual stance is kill everyone and everything. Now this is, of course, because the dead were evil, YET, the same Jew pets he has to cause as much suffering as possible are vile beyond belief and that’s EXACTLY why he picked them.
“…God has always wanted his people do good and not evil, to do justice and help the poor and downtrodden.
The sacrifices were there to remind them of that…”
So let’s make the animals suffer so that Jews will know to be good. Right…ok.
Never forget your manners. god needs burnt meat.
Wow. You da man, Sam! Your only error above is that the volcano demon doesn’t want the meat. It’s the scent of the burning fat that he savors! If you were a Presbyterian, with your dues all paid up, I bet you would have known that.
The meat, you see. Is for the sustenance of those mobs of priests and surveillance officers that infest the holy nation, like fleas on a bedraggled kitty cat, as they swarm over the land attempting to spy out “sin” so the brain-dead habiru people may be fined enough to furnish sufficient bar-b-qued goats to keep said priests fat enough that they don’t need belts to hold their trousers up over their skanky, mutilated loins.
That’s a fact and people who find it offensive only do so because deep down, they know it’s true, which disturbs their slumbers.
Oh yeah, and Jews will never know how to be good because aren’t they the people who call evil good and good evil?
Jesus said they worshiped their father Satan in contradiction to their pressed father Abraham — meaning that Jesus confirmed that the god of Abraham was NOT Satan.
” And why would GOD want to kill everything and everyone off? ”
If EVERYONE were as you describe the Jews who’s to say he wouldn’t?
But we’re not!
Sam, given your antipathy towards the OT it should blow your mind then to be told there are passages in the OT where Jesus appears in his pre-incarnate state. Whenever it has God appearing as a person, or when it says “the angel of the Lord” – that is taken to be Jesus. For a while during the intertestamental period (the 400 yrs before Jesus was born when God didn’t speak to any prophets) jewish rabbis had a theory of 2 Yahwehs in the OT because they also noticed the appearance of God as a man. This idea was discredited in 1st century because it gave the early christians scriptural support for pointing out the jewish messiah was Jesus.
Some of the slaughter you object to of ppl groups in the OT was due to tainted bloodlines that had to be removed from the human race (giants/nephilim).
The sacrifice system in OT was set up not to cleanse humans from sin (it couldn’t) but to remind humans of their weak flawed sinful nature & need for God. You have forgotten the story of Adam & Eve & their disconnection from God due to disobediance. All the Mosaic laws & the temple sacrifice system were to train a ppl group of the need to follow God. The shedding of Jesus’ blood was the completed & final sacrifice that actually worked to reconnect ppl back to God. This act wouldn’t have meant much to jews had not the centuries of following mosaic laws & animal sacrifices preceded it. Blood was highly important – “the life is in the blood” – forbidden as food & used to purify in the temple. You should know Molech is a caananite god that was worshiped with child sacrifices – so Yahweh’s insistence on bulls and lambs is civilized in comparison. The other gods of that area were other spiritual beings in opposition to Yahweh whose worship practices included sexual immorality – temple prositutes & child sacrifice & sorcery. Yahweh’s code of conduct for the jewish ppl told them to strictly avoid those practices.
Your questions about “why does god need burnt meat” etc are also childish. The system was for the benefit of humans. How else do you (God) train & shape a bronze age era ppl group to have a desired level of morality & loyalty to God that lasts generations, but through a system of lifestyle & behavior laws & ritualistic practices in a temple complex over the course of many centuries? You also don’t understand that the Pharisees & Saducees who had power at the time of Jesus were really cults – warped versions of the priest class set up centuries ago.
Saying that Yahweh is a demon is also illogical. Read John 14 :9-11. Jesus is explaining how closely he is connected to Yahweh “anyone who has seen me has seen the Father”. So by your logic Jesus is also a demon. He called the Pharisees as belonging to the father of lies – because they refused to acknowledge he was the Messiah – so they were denying all the miracles as coming from God. Remember the Pharisees behaved like a cult.
You should investigate the Essenes, the ones who wrote the dead sea scrolls. They were prophets & wrote commentaries on the messiah prophecies in the OT scrolls.
I don’t know very much about the Cathars exacept they were an extremely ascetic cult & thought the world was evil & Yahweh was evil. These ideas come from gnosticism which was a 1st century heresy & its poisonous ideas are still around today in new age & current evils like transhumanism & gender ideology. The post is long enough without me explaining the folly of gnosticism but you can look it up for yourself.
Jesus cited the OT for many purposes including as proof of him being the Messiah.
To reject the OT is to reject him.
That doesn’t mean that everyone in the OT was perfect or even good.
Right! Including Yahweh, I presume.
GOD is perfect and good.
Unlike your pagan “gods”.
There was one specific moment in my life where I hit one realization which kind of “freed” me from the old path where I was just fully under control of a myriad of Cabal forces I was blind to. And though I was utterly blind to it, it put me on this path. And I was then given other things, my dogs among them, to strengthen me for this, and get my mind right for all of this.
In that one moment, when the realization hit, I experienced what the Renaissance painters depicted as a warm yellow glow of love and contentedness, raining down from God. Morehei Usheba described it raining down on him as he sat next to a well after a day of training his Akido. That warm radiance of love is a real thing, not some artist making something up for a painting. And that it was so prevalent in the art makes me think God was sharing it with a lot of people during that magical period to encourage the growth of beauty then. If we get rid of Cabal I will bet it will rain down a lot in what forms after.
It was so intense, had I been alone, I would have assumed I popped some little blood vessel in my brain, and it set off the intense sensation, or I had some mini seizure or something. But God put another family member there, and they actually experienced the exact same thing, and described it, and marveled with me at it. God even included that, so I would not question it. I was still pretty mechanistic back then.
But I can say from that moment, from the little bit of it allowed to hit me, whatever is up there is magical and beautiful in ways we can barely grasp. I can understand the people who die, and go to heaven and get sent back, who say they are almost looking forward to dying, because they want to go back.
Outstanding! That sounds about right, though it has nothing to do with the alleged God of the habiru desert troublemakers.
There is a God*, but there is no God in Jerusalem. You Bible fans overlook the most basic fact that making an idol of paper and ink is orders of magnitude more sacrilegious and blasphemous than building one from plaster and paint. As for Yahweh being perfect, you may say that, but you have no proof, other than your blasphemous book. But don’t fret; you are not going to burn in hell for your ‘sin,’ because people like you are their own punishment, which tends to support the law of conservation of energy.
*Because obviously, everything didn’t originate from nothing, thus a creation or cause makes sense — just not a middle-eastern volcano demon. I have also never claimed that de pagan gods be walkin’ de hood kicken’ ass, etc.
Philippians
Chapter 2
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Re knees, things, exaltations and the like, per Phillipians 2.
Sounds vaguely interesting, but means nothing as you use a book to prove itself. Given the 600 plus or minus versions of the Bible, someone could write one that says the exact opposite. Allow me. Only my version will be abridged. “Be ware, oh gullible ones, who rattle a nut shell that hath nothing but a weevil inside it.” Notice how “weevil” decrypts to, “we evil.” If you care to add up the numbers of all those letters and reduce them to their common digit-root, even more revelations may await you, oh man.
Ghost Who Walks (aka The Phantom comic? )
When I was visiting Israel this year on religious pilgrimage I took a very interesting tour of the rabbinical tunnels running along the western wall. They start near the men’s wailing wall section & runs underground along the wall under the muslim quarter. At the end you go through an older tunnel dating back to the time of King David which was discovered accidentally during excavations & exit in the muslim quarter, stepping out onto a street feeling a bit like Maxwell Smart.
There’s a small syngogue down there on its own mezzanine level, so there’s a few orthodox jews down there along with the tour guides & tourist groups. A handful of jewish women crowded together at one section of the stone blocks to pray. The tour guide explained this particular section was thought to be the section of wall closest to the holy of holies inner sanctum in the 2nd temple. She said “put your hand on the stone & see if you can still feel the presence of God.” My reaction was “no, God is everywhere & as a believer, God is in me”. The stone block felt exactly like you’d expect – cool, dry stone.
Afterwards we were back near the wailing wall with 15 mins before reassembling for the next activity. So myself & another woman went over to the western wall women’s section. There, jewish women gathered along the wall praying or rlsr sitting closeby. Very few tourists. I got close up to the wall feeling nervous about being the clumsy tourist & suddenly felt the presence of God. This is like an external goosebump knowing sensation. It was brief – like a friendly nod of acknowledgement. I wondered whether any of the jewish women there sensed Him or not. I have experienced these moments before & it’s different to the emotional marvelling of being somewhere that Jesus was etc.
Humility is really important when it comes to God – none of us have complete understanding.
Interesting. Until you are accused of channeling Kundilini and made to pay the gruesome consequences. You are correct that nobody knows. Another nifty quote is that even the very elect will be fooled. I think the self-elected and the stealers of elections must be included there as well.
That Phsntom? Why yes!
The full quote is that even the elect will be fooled IF THAT WERE POSSIBLE.
GOD will help the true elect to not be fooled.
Matthew 24:24
“For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
“…GOD will help the true elect to not be fooled….”
Oh this is sooooo good. I ask is it the followers of the demon god, or Jesus, that are the elect that are NOT being fooled?
You do not follow Jesus, if you did you would not be fooled by the heresy you defend.
If you wish to harness yourself to the Jews, go right ahead. I reject them and their demon god. No matter what the demon god says, ultimately the demon gods writings have been curated by the Jews. That is enough to give me pause there.
You have been warned of false prophets and corruption of the word of God yet you stubbornly insist on being totally subservient and obsessed with what the Jews say. I’m not impressed by even one thing the Jews say. I do not believe that all the words of the OT are the words of GOD. Does not Jesus tell us that all they are saying is not true and is tinted by the devil? Yes he does, yet you insist this is not true and “somehow”, Shazam, kabang, all, every single word of these Jews, who Jesus calls of the devil, is GOD. And even worse, you ignore what Jesus says to justify ALL of the OT as being the word of God. You believe what you want but I’ll never believe the murdering demon god of the Jews is GOD, especially since Jesus says exactly that.
An equivalence. Jesus talking about some of the prophets of the OT you lasso into some broad, super massive guarantee that Jesus says every single word of the OT being that of GOD. Yet completely ignoring the actual words he said.
The same. I mentioned the Buddhist. Likely the only time I’m ever talked about them, so in your world, Sam J. is immediately approving of everything the Buddhist say. I did nothing of the sort. I just mentioned them.
A more logical, and factual, reading of the OT would be GOD talked to the Jews at one time and realized what vile creatures they are, and cut off all contact with them. Satan seeing an opening sent his demon in to convince the vile creatures that they were “the chosen ones”. Right, chosen to be the vilest, evilest creatures on the planet if anything.
Look at this thread and how all of you call me all sorts of names, rebuke me, cast me as evil, try to show me as some horrible person. And THEN you start “explaining”. You have NO idea how this “explaining” sets off my Jewdar alarm bells. The Jews are always “explaining”, this, and “explaining” that. “Explaining” 911, “explaining” Shindlers list. “Explaining” the holohaox. “Explaining” why the Palestinians should be genocided. “Explaining” why White people should be killed off, vaxed and poisoned. I know when people start “explaining” anything about anything in Jews favor, I’m about to hear a huge pile of lies and BS. You keep dragging in all the “explanations” yet. What did Jesus say about the Jews,
“…“If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. Which one of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God.”…”
Think of the arrogance of you people. How when Jesus tells exactly what they are. Who they are and all you can do is start “explaining” why what he said was, really, not what he said.
Why when it comes to the OT you suddenly believe the Jews as “THE HONEST TRUTH” yet if you look at them now, and their past, and likely their future…I’m aghast at how you can have all your brains fall out on the ground when it comes to what the Jews and their demon god say.
I’ll quit talking about this because it’s pointless. For some reason all you people are obsessed with repeating the lies of the Jews. I’ll let Jesus tell you why,
“…Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word…”
You are lying about what I have said and what Jesus said.
There is no point in continuing this discussion.
These people can’t or won’t understand that when you worship your enemy, you are destroyed. The Bible needs a new final book, in which Jesus takes his psychopath, mattoid Pop to family court, divorces him, and gives him a good, hard boot in the nuts on the way out the door.
Seriously, no good has or will come from White people giving value to a foreign so-called and self-styled creator God. Especially when it behaves like a kike (because it *is* one).
Nice, but have you not considered that the best way to avoid being fooled by false prophets is to give no credence to the very idea of prophets, keep your eyes and ears open, trust everybody, but cut the cards?
Matthew 7:12
Thank you for this. It is truth.
“…I don’t know very much about the Cathars…”
Of course you then proceed to tell me all about them and link them too…
“…exacept they were an extremely ascetic cult & thought the world was evil & Yahweh was evil. These ideas come from gnosticism which was a 1st century heresy & its poisonous ideas are still around today in new age & current evils like transhumanism & gender ideology…”
“gender ideology”??? maybe next you will link them to antifa and flat earthers. I don’t guess we will ever know because they are ALL DEAD and most all their works were burnt. All we really have is the testimony of the people, nobles, who ran the areas who said they were good people so they would not kill them. That being so, they lost their noble titles and immigrants were bought in to kill them. We do know that.
We have thousands of pages of original Gnostic texts. There are some holes in our knowledge of it, but overall we know pretty precisely what several dozen sects believed. (There was never a unified “gnosticism” and they rarely called themselves that.)
And yes, several sects were obsessed with gender bending/flipping and/or androgony.
“Gnostic”. People notice what he is doing here is the EXACT same trick as the Jews calling everyone anti-semitic. It’s a way of deflecting the ACTUAL facts. A pretend accusation that means nothing. Something that has a big trash bag full of bad things, “supposedly”, that is hurled at people to make them cease to THINK about what these guys actually said. Pay attention. The people who actually interacted with these people day to day refused to oppress them or murder them even though they lost their land, which was everything back then, but supposedly that means nothing compared to the word salad hurled against them that they can’t answer because they’re all murdered. They had to bring in “immigrants” and promise them land and titles to have them murdered. He just throws the word Gnostic out there with a sneer. And what evidence do you have that the Carthars were into gender bending? I don’t believe a word of that. And they burned the literature of the Carthars.
It’s just the same as calling all White people White supremos if they stick up for Whites in any way. A dastardly trick.
As the Apostle said, idle babblings.
Except that it’s not.
Right. And several others were not.
You are bright enough to read John Lash’s book and make a more or less honest assumption. You ought to do that because you might be surprised.
I read a LOT of Gnosticism before I found my way back to the church.
I know the arguments. I reject them.
They are idle babblings based on visions from drugged up self-proclaimed prophets. The biblical canon hangs together, and is self-reinforcing at all points. Gnostical writings always end up contradicting other scripture, and most of the time, is even internally conflicting.
Have you read John Lash’s book, though? It’s not like the others. You ought to, if only to point out inconsistencies and debunk it. If you don’t cotton giving money to heretics, get it at Z-Library.
I’m a lot more with Sam than not. I’m not Christian because of the Old Testament. I’m Christian because of Jesus. He’s the subject of four tiny little books at the start of the New Testament. The priestess at Delphi declared for Jesus. The Egyptians declared for Jesus. The Romans were transformed into a Christian civilization within centuries. Since their emperor was considered a deity in training, to deprecate himself and his household to worshipping God? And really quickly, in a civilizational timescale?
That’s three gigantic, brilliant civilizations that more or less immediately agreed Jesus was worth listening to.
No one can be a Christian because of the OT, because the OT is incomplete. It’s purpose is to show the Total Depravity of man (if I can slip into some Calvanist jargon), to establish the necessity of blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins, to show God’s adherence to his covenants (even in the face of rank rebellion) and to show both the priestly and royal bona fides of Jesus of Nazareth.
It lays the foundation that Christianity is built on (with, of course Jesus as the cornerstone and ourselves as living stones.)
Boy, I don’t usually thumb down posts and have never before done that here, I think, but this one gets one. Sorry. I’ve only time for one or two points, so when you claim, “that is taken to be Jesus,” who takes it that way and how do they know and how can you trust them?
An interesting observation: for all the banging at “Gnosticism” some people do, notice there is hardly a word said about Arianism, another alleged heresy that was actually an earlier — and as far as anyone knows — more realistic and down to earth form of Christianity than the one so many here appeare to hold, which originated w the Vatican version spread into Northern Europe by alien muds, and was then twisted even farther by protestant reformers who appear to have been influenced by Jews who wanted to splinter the RC. Arianism: what about it? Followed by the early Goths? Was it still practiced by the Visigoths as late as 711? They were, after all, not so many miles away from the Cathars, who seem to have been more Nordic Germanic than the Carolingans, Vaticanites, et al. Is there any modern link to Arianism? It was once really big, you know!
Oh, and what credence did Arians give to so-called Saint Paul? Thanks for your input.
I’m more worried about Manicheans than Arians, but that’s just me. The Council of Nicaea put Arius to bed pretty conclusively IMO. Here we actually DO have the sourcing problem, because no one kept Arius’ writing, so what we know of him is the part that his detractors quoted to tear him down.
Gnosticism is railed against because it became a religious fad in the 60s-70s, and because it is AFAIK the only heresy to be called out by name by an apostle in a canon epistle. (1 Timothy 6.)
St. Nicholas did not make a good case by cold cocking Arius.
That sounds like he was losing on the theological facts and the logic.
If you’re such an asshole that Santa Claus slaps the shit out of you, I’m blaming you, not Santa Claus.
Council of Nicea. Yes, a political convention held long, long after all the original players were long dead. Doesn’t prove anything other than whatever its attendees and stakeholders — as they are called today — supported. The Visagoths practiced Arianism; they even had a Bible version, put out by some authority (bishop?) didn’t they? The claim was that Jesus was not God, I think. Something not rendered into force meat until said conference at Nicea, right? The Visagoths conveniently disappeared. Genocide?
The Visigoths were absorbed into the ruins of the Western Roman Empire. Aleric, who sacked Rome in the early 5th century, was a Visigoth. Always sink the damned ships.
The visigoths didn’t disappear. We just call them Austrians now.
>Austrians are Visagoths…
Wait a minute, didn’t the Visagoths move into the Iberian peninsula?
https://www.spainthenandnow.com/spanish-history/visig
I see that they converted to RC before the Moors arrived.
Austrians are Ostrogoths.
“…Your questions about “why does god need burnt meat” etc are also childish…”
No I submit that the question is FUNDAMENTAL. Why does GOD need burnt meat? Why should GOD, creator of the universe, and it’s so vast that I and no one else can really comprehend it, be jealous of other, fake gods? Why, they don’t even recon a fart in a hurricane in comparison. As for the Canaanites being wicked, please, compared to Jews? And of course, we only have the Jew’s word for this. Hardly a decent source and judging by all the constant lies they tell likely to be the opposite to the truth. In fact, if the Jews say the Canaanites were wicked, you could bet good money and win that the Canaanites were some of the finest people on planet earth.
Use your common sense. The demon Yahweh knew the Jews were so wicked that he would have no trouble getting such a psychopathic people to feed him blood of humans just by telling them they could have everything for nothing and everyone would be their slaves. You have all been tricked by the Jews and their demon god and are too stubborn to realize the vast contradictions inherent in the reality of the real situation.
GOD is a “jealous” god because that was a term the Israelites could understand.
He demands that we not worship false gods because we cause ourselves misery and damnation if we do.
The Caananites were much worse than the Jews and the worst evils of the Jews came from them.
You have turned your hatred of Jews into rebellion against GOD.
You are in rebellion against Jesus who preached out of the OT and cited it to prove his legitimacy.
Sam, I am the same anon who said your questions were childish. Your knowledge of the OT is incomplete & heavily slanted by your biases. The OT & NT are linked & work together.
The ancient jews you hate are no worse than any other historical grp of ppl. The problems with judaism stem from its originators being the Pharisees who were cultic versions of the preist class. They adhered not just to the laws written down but an oral torah – extracurricular oral rules preists passed down – layers of extra rules & religiosity ignoring the intent of the written law. The word “pharisaic” is in the English language for a reason.
The problems you have with secular progressive jews meddling to degrade societal stability today stems from the concept of tikkum olam – meaning “to heal/repair the world”. They believe their actions can save the world – hubristic of course to any christian who knows that’s Jesus’ job.
Trying to be brief:
Jesus was jewish.
Animal sacrifices were practiced globally. Human sacrifices also. Purpose was to barter with the “god” to get something. Extreme eg – aztecs believed human sacrifice kept the cosmos stable.
Animal sacrifice in jewish religion was to make a person ritually clean after being defiled – it enabled person to participate in society but wasn’t about bartering with the god to get a personal need met. Egs of becoming defiled & being ritually unclean are: via sex, childbirth, menstruation, handling dead animals, or dead bodies, being sick. Being ritually clean meant you could participate in society.
Getting blessings from yahweh was conditional on being a devout jew. Pagan cultures did sacrifices too – but the mosaic laws were an entire system to create a culture around reverence of yahweh that was not just the simplistic “gimme dat” mindset of the pagans.
Jesus was the only jew to be 100% observant. The complex system was meant to be impossible for men to follow. It was about creating the right spiritual culture to insert the end game piece – Jesus the Messiah.
Making yahweh demonic but still thinking jesus is god gives you really screwy theology that makes no sense. It makes a large chunk of what Jesus says in NT nonsense because he mentions the Father frequently. It undermines Jesus’ divinity, his reason to be crucified, the need for his blood to atone for our sin, & that his way is the only way. By believing yahweh is demonic & the creation is demonic you drive a wedge further between you & God – the spiritual separation isn’t your fault due to sin & prideful rejection – it’s god’s fault for being evil. If god is evil then there’s no need to repent & be reconciled for who wants to be reconciled to an evil god?- If the world is evil & its creator is evil then there’s no objective good – it’s all just variations of evil. Then any moral code is entirely subjective & you can literally do what thou wilt as Crowley claimed. After all, you are still made in the image of god – which means some of his attributes are bestowed on you – & you can go out in the world being god’s imager. But if evil yahweh made an evil world then he made mankind to be evil & there’s no escape because Jesus has now lost his divinity & is no longer the Redeemer & you have no where to go but be your own god & your efforts to be righteous are in vain & when you die there is no beautiful afterlife – it’s a hellscape for eternity instead.
You think the world is bad because of war, cabal, corruption, etc- the surveillance AC talks about? It would be infinitely worse with an evil creator & evil creation.
Assuming you want to be Christian, you need to do a lot of bible study & be discipled rather than going off half cocked into heresy & blasphemy territory. You need a mentor who can address your questions & show you where you’re in error & why. God bless you Sam, I will 🙏 for the right teachers to be put across your path.
You, like others frequently, attribute things to me I did not say. Attribute thoughts to me I don’t have and say things that demonstratively untrue. Why should people believe what you say when you are acting in such a manner.
Here’s just a few.
“…The ancient jews you hate are no worse than any other historical grp of ppl….”
Animal sacrifice. The Buddhist did not believe in this so right away we see you are either wrong, deceiving us or are misinformed.
And let’s make this perfectly clear. You people keep telling me all these things, and what all this means, where I only show the words of Jesus. All the “supposed” corrections you give me are all some “added” attributes that pretend that what he said was, not what he said and that I somehow am ignorant because I don’t know all these pretend things that, he said, that were, “unsaid”
“…tikkum olam – meaning “to heal/repair the world”…”
Best as I can tell the Jews meaning of tikkum olam is to murder anyone not completely subservient to the Jews. I don’t care what they say, I’m only interested in what they do.
“…They believe their actions can save the world…”
FOR THEM. Not for you. You completely miss this. They do NOTHING for you, only for themselves. There’s a lot of this in the OT. All this stuff they say is about making things good, it’s only for the Jews and their demon god. It has nothing to do with everyone else. Show where the demon god says he will make things good for everyone else but the demon god worshipers.
“…Animal sacrifices were practiced globally. Human sacrifices also. Purpose was to barter with the “god” to get something. Extreme eg – aztecs believed human sacrifice kept the cosmos stable.
Animal sacrifice in jewish religion was to make a person ritually clean…”
Another one of those “explanations”. Somehow when others sacrifice animals it’s not good and they have bad motives but when the Jews do it, it’s ok. I say you just made that up or are using the demon god’s writings to “say” it’s ok. Either way it’s not persuasive to keep referring to a corrupt demon and then say everything is ok because, the demon said so.
“…Making yahweh demonic but still thinking jesus is god gives you really screwy theology that makes no sense. It makes a large chunk of what Jesus says in NT nonsense because he mentions the Father frequently…”
To you, but not to everyone. For you the “the father” is the demon god but not to me. My father is NOT yours and I do not worship the demon god. Simply, Jesus talks about his father and while you submit that the demon god is the same father that Jesus is talking about, the Jews weren’t having ANY OF THIS. They DID not believe that the father Jesus talked of was in any way, “the father”. Prove me wrong on this. It’s impossible to as they murdered him.
Tell me, is “the father” that the Jews speak of, in the Jew’s mind, the same as “The Father” Jesus speaks of. Did they agree with him that they were the same? You know the answer. All of you people’s writing are a bunch of, “well this is really what this means, or that is because of this other”, but I don’t need any of that. I just write down what was said. Period.
“…It undermines Jesus’ divinity, his reason to be crucified, the need for his blood to atone for our sin, & that his way is the only way. By believing yahweh is demonic & the creation is demonic you drive a wedge further between you & God…”
You say this but it is only true if the demon god, is GOD. Otherwise, all this is just silly babble.
“…If god is evil then there’s no need to repent & be reconciled for who wants to be reconciled to an evil god?…”
Once again, you say things I did not. I said the demon god was evil. Not GOD. You keep self referring to the demon god as if whatever he says is true and everything else is false. A Judaeo mind set if there ever was one. Everything the Jews say is supposedly correct but everything else is wrong, no matter how stupid or wretched the subject.
Can you not see that by “insisting” on tying the words of the demon to Jesus, you negate what Jesus said? That you are becoming a Jew like them? That their constant twisting of everything is what you are doing. Making reality fit the twisted demon’s words instead of what Jesus said. What did Jesus say,
“…If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God …”
“…You are of your father the devil…”
How simple is this? A reasonable person could not be condemned for thinking the “father” of the Jews and Jesus “FATHER” were not the same. Yet, you INSIST on tying the FATHER(GOD) of Jesus to the “father” (satan’s demon) of the Jews. You just can not give up the words of the demon such that you can not make sense of what Jesus says directly and specifically. You keep telling me what the demon said and I tell you I reject the demon and his sick trauma based wretched murderous writings. The Jews were chosen alright. Chosen by the demon war god of the Jews because he knew that they were inherently evil and would feed him the blood of millions in their lust for rule over the world and all the people in it. Give them credit, they have done their part to feed the demon blood. The Jews were evil from the beginning. Likely a Neanderthal hybrid animal full of lust, hate and vile countenance. There is NO DOUBT at all the Jews believe the god the Jews worship will give them everything and will enslave everyone to them. That’s what they believe. That being so, and it is, then how is it that you profess such dutiful worship to such a vile creature?
“…Then any moral code is entirely subjective & you can literally do what thou wilt as Crowley claimed….”
You’re just stringing together nonsense, throwing the whole sink in, the garbage, anything you can, to pretend I’m in favor of…I don’t know what because what ya’ll are saying has nothing to do with what I’m saying. All this “stuff”, that I’m “supposed” for, gender bending, etc. is just Jew technique character assignation and is dishonest and deceitful.
“…But if evil yahweh made an evil world then he made mankind to be evil …You think the world is bad because of war, cabal, corruption, etc- the surveillance AC talks about? It would be infinitely worse with an evil creator & evil creation….”
I “think” you are obliquely referring to my joke about stubbing my toe and the material word being evil. I was pointing out the Carthars believed something of this sort but we can’t be sure because the people who murdered them all were the people that said they believed this. A bit contrived to judge them guilty on their account, don’t you think? The stubbed toe was just a joke. I honestly believed people would see this, as I didn’t expect people to take my joke of a stubbed toe and link it to me thinking all of the creation was evil. I guess I misjudged the audience.
“…You need a mentor who can address your questions & show you where you’re in error & why…”
And maybe you should rip out the writings of the demon god and JUST read the New Testament and see how that works for you without the misguidance of the satanic demon god yahweh.
1. Buddhists & animal sacrifice: an exception does not disprove a general rule.
2. Sam said:
All the “supposed” corrections you give me are all some “added” attributes that pretend that what he said was, not what he said and that I somehow am ignorant because I don’t know all these pretend things that, he said, that were, “unsaid”
You’ll have to provide an eg of an “added attribute” if you want a response. Ppl are paraphrasing/condensing/summarizing.
3. Tikkum olam done by secular progressive jews is social justice. Other ppl who aren’t jewish exist who have the same ideology. All social justice ideologues produce bad fruit regardless of race.
4. You complain about animal sacrifices a lot. Are you vegan? These are agrarian societies with bronze age tech who regarded animals in a totally utilitarian way. PETA is a modern indulgence. Some eastern religions/sects were exceptions.
I explained the purpose so you would understand the differences for animal sacrifice done by pagans vs jews.
5. Sam said:
To you, but not to everyone. For you the “the father” is the demon god but not to me. My father is NOT yours and I do not worship the demon god. Simply, Jesus talks about his father and while you submit that the demon god is the same father that Jesus is talking about, the Jews weren’t having ANY OF THIS. They DID not believe that the father Jesus talked of was in any way, “the father”. Prove me wrong on this. It’s impossible to as they murdered him.
Why do you insist in treating the jews as this homogenous lump who all acted the same? Jesus’ ministry was mostly carried out in Jewish territory to mostly jews. Most of his followers were jews. The jews were his prime target. See Matthew 15:21-28.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2015%3A21-28%2CMark%207%3A24-30&version=NIV
A SUBSET of jews hated Jesus & had him murdered. Do you understand the parable in Matthew 21:33-43?
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2021%3A33-43&version=NIV
What & who do you see as god? Is Jesus god? Does jesus have a father that’s also god ?
6. A lot of ranting here bc you are being stubborn.
See Luke 2:41-52. What does verse 49 “Why were you searching for me?” he asked. “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?” mean?
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%202%3A41-52&version=NIV
7. I didn’t remember your stubbed toe. But it made me chuckle.
8. Jesus, the apostles, the authors of the NT books read the OT & referenced them in their writings. It would be difficult to understand the NT fully without the OT. Sure, you can ignore the OT, but if Jesus referenced it, then isn’t the OT relevant still?
At the start of his public ministry Jesus made this declaration to the jews in the little synagogue in his hometown of Nazareth. Luke 4:16-21.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+4%3A16-21&version=NIV
If the father of Jesus isn’t Yahweh why does Jesus quote from the OT?
“…4. You complain about animal sacrifices a lot. Are you vegan?…”
No but I do not wish animals to suffer. I do not like factory farming but, unfortunately, I do gain from it. I have said many times I hope that people will use genetic engineering to engineer yeast, bacteria, etc. to grow food, meat, or whatever in vats so that we will not have to slaughter animals and treat them as we do.
https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/news-briefs-11-28-2022/#comment-411914
It’s generally known that people who enjoy the suffering of animals are evil and frequently become serial killers. It’s a trait with them. That the Jews codify that animals must be made to suffer is a damning thing. Do you see a pattern here? All the things that the Jews do now that all of you MUST find repulsive[if you are really “human”]. Telling a little truth and lots of lies. Only caring for themselves and saying everyone else is of no consequence. Creating pain and suffering, why this all just the same as the demon god of the Jews. In fact if you worship the demon god then you approve of the Jews behavior. They are just doing what the demon god ask.
Did Jesus ever ask anyone to sacrifice to him? Did Jesus ever say that you should kill off everyone who did not worship him?
Hebrews 9:22, which says, “Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.”
The demon god demands blood.
“…I explained the purpose so you would understand the differences for animal sacrifice done by pagans vs jews…”
And I reject your explanation as being meaningless and of no value. The Jews have no “special” sacrifice that somehow makes them killing animals in a brutal way and pagans doing the same any different at all. This is just something you say “is” but has no real value.
Maybe you think the, vile, evil and disgusting, Chinese practice of burring dogs alive over a fire to kill them is really, really special. The demon yahweh must really love the Chinese. Maybe the Chinese are the real Jews.
The GOD of the OT did not say to kill every gentile who did not worship him, only specific lost cultures that were beyond reforming.
Jesus participated in the law which was still valid until his death, so he offered sacrifices.
He also offered his own blood as the last and greatest blood sacrifice for the sins of man.
The modern kosher slaughter method was not given in the OT, it was invented by the rabbis later as part of their hedges about the law.
The OT commands the people not to eat blood, so the holier than thou builders of hedges about the law demanded that animals be slaughtered in a manner that would cause them to lose the most blood possible and not leave as much in the tissues.
“…Jesus participated in the law which was still valid until his death, so he offered sacrifices…”
Some dispute this. As Jesus had nothing to atone for.
“…He also offered his own blood as the last and greatest blood sacrifice for the sins of man….”
They didn’t cut his throat, why not if it was so important? They did put in a good round of suffering and trauma. Maybe that was good enough for the demon god.
“…The modern kosher slaughter method was not given in the OT, it was invented by the rabbis…”
Better known as the keepers of the demon god’s laws. It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if the demon god “inspired” them towards this inhuman torture. If they’re the keeper of the demon’s laws why wouldn’t they be knowledgeable of the demon’s wishes in this? And if “somehow” they got it wrong then…what if the rest is wrong also? Why is it perfect and GOD word, but somehow, we really can’t say, it’s the rabbis fault if, it’s not good? Please explain exactly the timeline and the exact line in the passages where the rabbis are wrong, and the demon god is not.
“Some dispute this. As Jesus had nothing to atone for.”
He also was baptized though he was sinless.
He followed all the rules as an example to the rest of us.
Christ repeatedly chastised the Pharisees for adding to GOD’s law or substituting their own traditions entirely.
You either never read the NT or you have already rejected it and Jesus entirely but won’t admit it.
“I eat meat. Therefore I should torture cats and pull the wings off flies. Scorn vegetarians, oh believer, because Hitler!”
Vox Day really needs to dump the science fiction nonsense and write that book about logical fallacies people keep asking for!
“…1. Buddhists & animal sacrifice: an exception does not disprove a general rule….”
Well buddy just who the hell are you to judge Buddhist as some “exception”? In fact the opposite is true. There are a hell of a lot more Buddhist than there are demon god worshipers. And what about the Hindu’s. I’m not saying any of these are right, what I’m pointing out is your total blindness to anything that’s not in the demon’s book of kill, kill, kill and his psychopathic pets the Jews.
That you ignore the MAJORITY do not accept the demon god shows a severe gap in your understanding of reality. Your judgement is faulty and inaccurate just on the face of the facts.
I thought of something else. Know how the Jews sacrifice? The Jews “kosher” way of killing animals is to cut their throats. Not to try and cause less pain. No the demon god of the Jews wants TRAUMA. The old testament of the demon god of the Jews is all about causing everyone he can trauma. Murder these people, kill those people. Let not even the animals survive. Kill all the children. Kill, kill, kill. The Jew demon god thrives on pain and suffering.
Now you say this is fine because,”they were wicked”, Well the Jews are wicked. When will you fall on them and slaughter them all? Man, Women, Child and their house pets? And if you pay attention, the Jews haven’t changed much. We KNOW that they had tortured children before by bleeding them dry and drinking their blood. How much of that still goes on I do not know but there’s a good deal of evidence, pizzagate and numerous first-hand testimony, that the Jews still believe in sexual torture and murder of children. True to their demon god to the end. How are all of you so blind?
You all sound like deranged crazy murderous lunatics worshiping the Jews demon god. Listen to your weak hollow arguments in favor of pain, suffering, evil, murder and torture. Maybe your god is a psychopathic murderer, but mine, is not.
“Kosher” rules of slaughter were created by the Pharisees, they are not in the Bible.
GOD gets to judge how irredeemably corrupt a nation is and decree extermination, nobody else does.
I suppose the full details about circumcision are not in the Bible either — specifically the mohel. The Elders claimed that Yahweh gave those laws to Moses ‘off the record.”
You do a bang up job of illustrating how and why all forms of Abrahamism are noxious and deadly to our people.
And note well: Yahweh was complaining about false gods, but he didn’t mean they did not exist; he meant that he didn’t care for them, probably because any sane human would prefer them, over his own psychopathic self, thus causing him a negative outcome. “FALSE,” as in false friends, or false Sextus (Sextus Tarquinius, described by Macaulay, in his poem). Quite a difference!
The modern circumcision method is not in the Bible and the Mohel method was not used in Biblical times.
In fact the biblical method only removed the tip of the foreskin, not the entire thing.
The complete removal was added by the Pharisees after the time of Christ because too many Jews were tying weights to the remaining foreskin to stretch it and replace the removed part in order to fit in when going to Greek Gymnasiums or doing other activities where they were naked around gentiles.
The Pharisees could not accept leaving the punishment for that (if any) up to GOD and changed the circumcision to make it impossible.
Your pagan “gods” always have been and always will be evil, far more evil even than your twisted understanding of the true GOD.
Tying weights. A trombone mouthpiece is supposed to work pretty well, if you have the right tape. However, the method those reprobate Hebrew un-circumcisors used was supposed to be very painful and call for some additional cutting. Plus, one tends to suspect that the reason the ancient rabbis didnt take the whole foreskin was because it would have been much more dangerous, as antibiotics did not exist. Then again, neither did Helena Rubenstein.
70 AD and then again in 1942 AD.
OMG. I can’t believe what you just said. The Old Testament is the Word of God. Jesus said, “Man lives by EVERY word that proceeded out of the Mouth of God”! That means the Old Testament because the NT wasn’t even written yet! I thought you were a fundie Prot. You are NO where Christian. To attack the Old Testament is to attack Christ Himself!
Jesus said, “Man lives by EVERY word that proceeded out of the Mouth of God”! That means the Old Testament…”
So now Jesus says something and you immediately redefine it to mean that the Jews word is God’s word. Please… I know everyone has been so brainwashed such that almost everyone now talks in Judaeo twista verba-crap, Where nothing means something and something means something else and all of it is meaningless word salad but get this.
Jesus,”…You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him…”
Twist on that. See what you can do with that. All you feeding me this twisto-chango, explain that first, then we’ll move on to whatever Jew infested psychopathic utterances they mangled together to brainwash us.
People who claim they are Christians but insist on following the satanic Jews words are like White nationalist that insist on marrying Negros from Africa and importing them to the US.
If you’re so obsessed with the psychopathic Jew utterances, maybe you wish to glom onto a few more of theirs.
“Our race is the Master race.
The masses will lick our feet
and serve us as our slaves.”
— Menachem Begin, Israeli Prime Minister,
Kill the Goyim by any means possible. -Choshen Ha’mishpat 425:50
A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them. -Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17
We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own.
Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles (1924)
“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.
Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat. That is why gentiles were created.”
Rabbi Ovadia Yosef
“It was essentially a Jewish regime in the Soviet Union that between 1917 and 1953 managed to exterminate 66 million Russian Christians and destroy their churches”
Shulamit Aloni, former Israeli minister, Democracy Now, August 14, 2002
“We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.”
— Israel Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001
If every simple cell in a Jewish body entails divinity, is a part of God, then every strand of DNA is a part of God. Therefore, something is special about Jewish DNA.
If a Jew needs a liver, can you take the liver of an innocent non-Jew passing by to save him? The Torah would probably permit that. Jewish life has an infinite value. There is something infinitely more holy and unique about Jewish life than non-Jewish life.
Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg, Jewish Week, April 26, 1996
Any trial based on the assumption that Jews and goyim are equal is a total travesty of justice.
Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg, June 6, 1989
Here in the Land of Israel, an Arab has no right to exist. [The Jewish terrorist Baruch] Goldstein’s deed [killing 29 Muslims] constitutes a fulfillment of a number of com-mandments of Jewish law…[including] taking revenge on non-Jews.
Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg, Ha’aretz, Israel, November 05, 2003
I am sorry not only about dead Arabs but also about dead flies.
Rabbi Moshe Levinger, cited in Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel by Israel Shahak
The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews–all of them in all different levels–is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle.
Rabbi Avraham Yitzhak Kook, once Chief Rabbi in Palestine, cited in Shahak, Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel
Maybe you guys can put these in a book and worship these Jew saying also.
Jesus said their father was the devil because they rejected the Law and the Prophets (the OT), and if they had not rejected them they would not have rejected him.
You should try actually reading the NT.
“…Jesus said their father was the devil because they rejected the Law and the Prophets…”
It does not say that. You made that up. It says,
“…Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father…”
That is in no way saying anything about prophets of straying from the truth or anything. It says God was not their father. Just more Jueodo twisto chango to worship the demon god of the Jews.
Jesus,”…He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God…”
They are NOT of GOD. You people keep pushing all these twisty “concordances” at me, and I only give you the words of Jesus. Who’s right? The bloodthirsty trauma obsessed murdering demon war god of the Jews or Jesus?
Why do you keep telling me all these things that Jesus said do not mean…what he said? You can call me names until you are blue in the face, but that doesn’t change the actual words.
Maybe you all internalized the Clinton,”…it depends on what the meaning of “is”, “is”.
You clearly don’t read the NT.
You can’t just cherry pick.
John Chapter 8
37 I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
Right out of Christ’s mouth he says in verse 37 that Abraham is their father.
Then he proceeds to tell them that they are no longer Abraham’s seed because they do the works of the devil.
Now I will post examples of him endorsing the OT since you have clearly never read the NT in your life and can’t even be bothered to read the context of the verses some heretic is pointing you at:
John Chapter 5
42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?
45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
Matthew Chapter 23
1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
Matthew Chapter 23
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Matthew Chapter 5
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Luke Chapter 16
16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
Luke 13:28
“There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.”
Luke 18:31
“Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.”
Luke 16:31
“And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.”
Luke Chapter 24
25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
John 7:19
“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?”
And there’s much more.
Humble yourself and read the NT all the way through multiple times.
Farcesensitive,”…Right out of Christ’s mouth he says in verse 37 that Abraham is their father….”
Vast, huge overreaching assumption. Abraham is their father, so therefore they are of GOD. No they could be of Abraham and still be of the demon god. Still worship the demon god.
Jesus says,
“…38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father...”
“…42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of …”
So are they the same? How does that read? Are the FATHERS the same?
And I repeat because in all cases you continue to pretend “I’m childish”, “4chan” all sorts of names but this is what Jesus says and you have to drag in a multitude of verses of ambiguous repute to pretend what he said was, not what he meant. But Jesus said,
“…44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.…”
There’s no nuance in this. There’s no “special concordance” that you have to leaf through to get the meaning. It is what it is.
Farcesensitive,”…Now I will post examples of him endorsing the OT…”
Huge stretch again. That he quotes Jews writings does not mean he endorses them. Only that some things in there are true. Haven’t you ever heard of demons soothsaying the future? Surely you have. That a demon tells a little truth and a lot of lies…whooops sounds a hell of a lot like the Jews doesn’t it. They haven’t changed a bit.
You keep telling me the OT is THE WORD and everything in it is THE WORD, well even your demon scripted OT agrees that forecasting, soothsaying the future, divination is of the devil. So the demon of the devil even warns you that it is tricking you, [this is one of the rules they still go by so we have it then, and now], and that you are not following GOD but a demon.
“…God tells us His view of divination in Deuteronomy 18:10: “There shall not be found among you . . . anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens.” First Samuel 15:23 compares rebellion to the “sin of divination.”
Practicing divination is listed as one of the reasons for Israel’s exile (2 Kings 17:17). Jeremiah 14:14 spoke of the false prophets of the time, saying, “They are prophesying to you a lying vision, worthless divination, and the deceit of their own minds.” So, compared to God’s truth, divination is false, deceitful, and worthless.
As Luke traveled with Paul and Silas in the city of Philippi, he recorded an encounter with a diviner: “We were met by a slave girl who had a spirit of divination and brought her owners much gain by fortune-telling” (Acts 16:16). The girl’s ability to penetrate mysteries was due to a demon that controlled her. Her masters received “much gain” from their slave. Paul eventually exorcised the demon (verse 18), freeing the girl from her spiritual bondage and angering the slave owners (verse 19).
Divination in any form is sin. It is not harmless entertainment or an alternate source of wisdom. Christians should avoid any practice related to divination, including fortune-telling, astrology, witchcraft, tarot cards, necromancy, and spell-casting. The spirit world is real, but it is not innocent. According to Scripture, those spirits that are not the Holy Spirit or angels are evil spirits.
Christians need not fear the spirits involved in divination; neither are Christians to seek wisdom from them. The Christian’s wisdom comes from God (James 1:5)…”
https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-divination.html
And notice the last. “…Christians need not fear the spirits involved in divination…”. Why? Because they do not follow the demon god but Jesus alone.
That you show a few divinations from the OT and that it has a few decent commandments, that the Jews never follow, DOES NOT mean that the demon god is GOD. That Jesus tries to minister to the Jews to stop them from following the demon god does not mean he approves of the demon god. In fact, it’s just the opposite. And he says so in a pointed, direct way, but apparently by drawing in tons of references to color what he says from the demon god you are convinced otherwise.
You are obviously arguing in bad faith.
Christ says they do not do the works of Abraham and that they do the works of the devil, that means that Abraham who worshiped the GOD of the OT did not do the works of the devil.
Moses is THE prophet of the GOD of the OT and he specifically endorses Moses, both as someone who prophesied of him and as the one whose laws the people were to follow before he fulfilled them and gave us the Law of Liberty.
He specifies that not one jot or tittle of the law or the prophets is being destroyed.
He says Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (worshipers of the OT GOD) will be in heaven as opposed to the Pharisees who do not in truth do so.
Supply just ONE verse where Christ denounces the GOD of the OT.
You can’t.
The closest he came was when he specified that the law allowing divorce was of Moses and not of GOD, this establishes a precedent that some of the other laws allowing the Jews to do bad things like keeping concubines as sex slaves probably also came from the imperfect mind of Moses and not from GOD.
I will now cease casting pearls to the willfully blind.
May you cease to kick against the pricks and return unto GOD.
“…You are obviously arguing in bad faith…”
No. That you disagree has no bearing on my arguments or my faith.
“…Christ says they do not do the works of Abraham…”
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
“…He specifies that not one jot or tittle of the law or the prophets is being destroyed…”
You’ve expanded that to being Jesus endorsement of the whole of the OT. You say I can’t prove he doesn’t I say there’s no where he approves all of it. I also say that demons can sooth say future events. Doesn’t mean they are godly, or even close.
Yes. They are the same. Jesus says between those verses that if they were of abraham, they would do as abraham, but they do not. This indicates that the god of Abraham is the father.
Jesus just said that they were not of Abraham.
A= abraham
B= satan
You are not of a, you are of b. If you were of a, you would worship my father.
This means the father and the God of Abraham are the same.
You are reading too much into the Hebrew word translated as divination. It specifically refers to necromancy (trying to communicate with the dead or interpreting entrails).
Sam, stop arguing like some 12 yr old who thinks he’s an atheist edgelord on Reddit. Everyone is being civil & helpful & you are being rude & obnoxious. Not cool.
You say as Jesus told the pharisees their father is the devil so then because the pharisee jews worship Yahweh then Yahweh must be the devil. Your reasoning is stuck in this binary thinking that’s rigid & simplistic & frankly retarded. Jesus was discerning their hearts. The pharisees were hypocrites. They enjoyed their status in society & made a big deal of following the laws. But they missed the intent behind the laws. They failed to cultivate a heart for Yahweh. John the Baptist and Jesus both called out their wickedness.
Here’s a summary of what jesus criticized them for:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woes_of_the_Pharisees#:~:text=The%20Woes%20of%20the%20Pharisees,also%20include%20warnings%20about%20scribes.
Here is an explanation about how John the Baptist criticized them.
https://www.gotquestions.org/brood-of-vipers.html
“…Your reasoning is stuck in this binary thinking that’s rigid & simplistic & frankly retarded…”
Talk about desperation. You’re now using leftist arguments.
Next you’ll tell me that “it’s all nuanced”, that “people are not binary”, this is classic left arguments.
“..Jesus was discerning their hearts…”
And again. “It’s nuanced”. Your link goes to some listing where “the proper type” tell us what Jesus meant. Not what he said, what he meant.
No, he was telling them they were worshiping the devil and his demon. He didn’t say a thing about their hearts. And of course the name-calling will really convince me. Calling me names proves so much. If you call me names, why, you must be right…
What about the verse where he says they are children of Abraham before telling them they lost that status because they do the works of the devil and not the works of Abraham?
Abraham worshiped the OT GOD, not a devil.
It’s important to know who the Pharisees and the Sadducees were. The good news is that we have very apt modern analogs.
Pharisees were the woke. Sadducees were the Deep State.
Remember those two analogies, and things make way more sense.
The Pharisees made a special holiday to celebrate when they wiped out the Saducees.
Typical. The Romans wipe out the Sadducees, and the Pharisees take credit.
Sadducees, as the older, original group, would have been the Deep State, which existed way back to when Moneylender/Merchant, Tera, founded the brilliant scheme of a fake religion to facilitate trade, commerce, and the usury Swindle, and sent his younger son, Abram/Abraham out to set it up by swindling Melchizedik out of a Blessing and get things rolling. The latter being the priest-king of Salem and The Most High God…known by that appellation because his city was the “most high” in the region, rendering in darn near invincible to armies of the time. Stone walls were possible, too, unlike in Mesopotamia, where the most secure structures were limited to mud bricks. All the gods stayed in cities back then. Having your own brand of religion, with your own private God, and a secure fortress of a temple cum bank… what else could a merchant usurer desire, you ask?
Easy! The support of several tribes of murderous goat rustlers living in the region, who could be swindled into supporting the scam because they were big-time into their genealogies, thus could be swindled into believing in your game plan if you could rewrite history a tad — after all the Habiri were illiterate.
The books that became the OT were not actually written down and consolidated (you might call it) until about 538, right? While the Hebrews were in captivity in Babylon? Plus, some important material was allegedly found by I think it was Josiah, hidden in a wall? That sounds fishy.
Gregory Delaney, Ph.d, in his second book on the topic, “Monsters of Babylon” does a thorough, logical, and convincing job of deconstructing the entire OT corpus as a brilliant and very wicked business plan by the Merchant/Moneylender guild of Ur — Tera was a leader; his son was Abram. Delaney doesn’t miss a trick, and boy are there a lot of them. I just finished a second reading, after quite a few years. Given current events and what has been revealed lately, it is astonishing.
He also has nothing bad to say about Jesus, except that while he fulfilled some old prophecies that had been concocted to actually assure that a real Messiah could never, ever appear, thus allowing the moneylender’s swindle to continue forever.
So while Jesus fulfilled these prophesies, he wasn’t the son of the Yahweh god, at least any more than you or I or your average, man or woman. Then, along came Saul, who never laid eyes upon Jesus. Guess what happened?
Oral tradition preserved the stories of Genesis & patriarchs until they were written down. The first script used was old Hebrew alphabet (paleo hebrew) which dates back to C10th BC. Few MS survive in that script. The 1st exile around 500 BC – the israelites were taken to Babylon & there they learned a new script Aramaic block script. On their return back to Israel the paleo Hebrew scrolls were copied using the new script. Then around the 3rd century the greek translation of the scrolls was made – this is called the Septuagint & it has a fee extra books considered important but not canonical. The jewish canon was finalized in the time period 500BC to 100AD.
It’s interesting to note a reference to an even older collection of scrolls considered sacred in 2 Maccabees (which is in Catholic bible not protestant):
2 Maccabees 2:13-15 (ca. 400 BC) “founded a library and collected books about the kings and prophets, and the writings of David.”
Forgot to add context for the Maccabees reference. Nehemiah who returned to Israel in 444 BC is the one who established that library.
There are copies of the greek Septuagint today that have been dated to at least 200 BC. There are individual Hebrew texts dating back to almost 500 BC.
I think you skipped a bit there. Matthew 4
4 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
But read it
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone,
[full stop]
but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Jesus is talking directly to satan. Rebuking him for tempting him. The demon was trying to entice him as he successfully did to the Jews. Promising him earthy power instead of worship of the true GOD.
6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
[this is a joke]sorta
Here we can see that the earth is evil and will dash your foot against a stone unless the angels[not of the earth, not material, but of heaven] bring you up.
So maybe the Cathars were right about these dastardly earth stones being evil. It does show above that the demon and satan can promise things of the earth and has power here. So to be aware of possible evil of earthly things is not false. Maybe this is what they meant, seeing as how you make up stuff I can too, and the murders of the Cathars twisted the meaning into something else.
This sort of demiurge heresy is at the core of Gnosticism.
God rebuke you.
Why not let God decide if he needs rebuking, instead of giving him hints?
Because I’ve read the bible.
Michael the Archangel. Well, if Cornelius Codrenau and his Iron Guard thought highly of him, he must have some value, not that what you just wrote makes any sense.
“The material world is evil.”
WRONG.
Existence itself is NOT evil.
That is an ANTI-LIFE stance.
There is literally no more Satanic a stance.
It is fundamentally hatred of God’s Creation.
A purity spiral so stupid it winds up in nihilism.
Ugh.
That’s not what the so-called Gnostics claimed, though. They understood Abrahamism as being the anti-life influence, slapping the creation in its face.
Which Gnostics? There was never a unified group, and none of those groups actually called themselves Gnostic. Gnostic is the label applied by the apostolic church, not the heretics to themselves.
Right. The word, “GNOSTICS” means something like “wise_ass.” There were many groups, but the real (ahem) ones were those who were real/true, of course — in the sense that counterfeiters wouldn’t make fake money if the genuine thing did not exist. I think the real group, which might have had multiple branches or stems, all coming from the same root, they called themselves, “Those Who Are Aimed.” The actual word was something like, “Telastoi,” probably misspelled there. They may have been connected with the so-called Mysteries of some Greek word that begins with ‘E,’ and ends with ‘m.’
Well, a simple statement of Sam J has blossomed into a huge torrent of comment. Wow, what a storm.
The Bible uses a lot of tenses; poetic, myth (story-telling), literal, command, rhetoric. One has to understand all these tenses when reading the Bible.
On this “””world””” thingy. The world is evil thing. Well, that is rhetoric. It is not a scientific statement for it is without a qualifier. In Genesis, God called creation, the cosmos, Nature, Good! The World is good.
Well, then what is evil? The World of Man. There are two worlds that are rhetorical, the world of Nature and the World of Man. This is what has fooled a lot of people.
The world of the so-called “monkey-mind” of man, a wise-acering, half-baked, clap-trap that distorts and muddles. I don’t know that it is evil, since it is not intentional. It’s not desirable, though.
Worth reading:
<a href=”https://ia802304.us.archive.org/31/items/holy-serpent-of-the-jews-texe-marrs_202110/Holy%20Serpent%20of%20the%20Jews%20-%20Texe%20Marrs.pdf”>Holy Serpent of the Jews</a>
And
<a href=”https://www.kabbalahsecretschristiansneedtoknow.com/2019/08/identifying-edom-through-scripture-and.html”>.kabbalah secrets Christians need to know</a>
If you’re an honest Christian, you’ll be cured of your Judaeo-Christianity.
Well, trying to edit the hyperlinks was a waste of time. I guess all we can do is paste the hyperlink directly.
“Biden wants to essentially ban Christians from adopting foster care children based on their religious beliefs and opposition to radical LGBTQ ideology.”
Would they ban muslims and orthodox jews too? Or various animist religions, perhaps some European pagans? All of those religions are opposed to LGBTQ+ and it’s incarnations, at least they claim to be. If not it’s clearly a religious test, and an anti-Christian one at that. Scotus would challenge, and it can even be grounds for impeachment if it deprives people of rights under color of law and the Biden admin pushes it through the scummy and illegal way they do almost everything.
Is it actually Biden, himself pushing these things, or is there someone else ‘a la’ the Wizard of Oz pulling the strings? Biden does not deserve any respect, but the person that they put in front of the media does not have the cerebral capacity for this kind of evil.
I have bad news for you. If you don’t find some way to *exorcise* the Jews and all their influence, influencers, and works from the hearts and souls of mankind, we are all finished. Probably no one is coming to save you, and that goes Triple for any person or thing connected with the Jew’s ancient and wicked business plan.
You’re not the only one to say this.
FRANZ LISZT(1811–1886), famed composer quoted in Col. E. N. Sanctuary’s Are These Things So?, page 278: “The day will come when all nations amidst which the Jews are dwelling will have to raise the question of their wholesale expulsion, a question which will be one of life or death, good health or chronic disease, peaceful existence or perpetual social fever.”
“They are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race.”
VOLTAIRE(1694–1778)
I saw a movie about him long ago. “Lisztomania?” He was far more than just another piano player. He was certainly right about that. The Jews will be happy to destroy everything and everybody, if they cannot have their way. The big surprises– though not for everybody — is that they will destroy the entire world, if they don’t get their way.
“The meaning of the number 17 In the Bible is that of “overcoming the enemy” and “complete victory.” God overcame the sins of rebellious humans when he began to flood the earth through rain on the 17th of the second Hebrew month. Noah’s ark and its eight passengers rested on the mountains of Ararat on Tishri 17 (the seventh month of the Hebrew sacred calendar).
Jesus Christ gained a complete victory over death and the grave when God resurrected him near sunset on Nisan 17 (Saturday, April 8, 30 A.D.).
In the book of 1Corinthians the thirteenth chapter, the seventeenth mention of the word “love” comes when the apostle Paul states that it is the greatest gift of all (1Corinthians 13:13). God’s unending love (John 3:16) is truly victorious over all things. Those who stay faithful to God to the end of their lives will gain the victory over the grave when they are miraculously brought back to life (see 1Corinthians 15).”
The JFK/Epstein thing is fake news.
“I was on Jeffrey Epstein’s jet two times,” Kennedy said of the plane widely dubbed the “Lolita Express” due to its use for taking girls to the disgraced moneyman’s private island.
“I was on it in 1993 and I was on it in — and I went to Florida with my wife and two children to visit my mom over Easter,” the 69-year-old added, referring to his late ex-wife, Mary Richardson Kennedy, who died by suicide in 2012.
“My wife had some kind of relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell, and they offered us a ride to Palm Beach,” he said.
“I went then, and on another occasion I flew again with my family with, I think, four of my children and Mary, my wife, to Rapid City, South Dakota, to go fossil hunting for a weekend.
Presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. admits he flew on Epstein’s private jet twice. Fox News“Otherwise, I was never on his jet alone,” he insisted.
“This was in ’93, so it was 30 years ago — before anybody knew about Jeffrey Epstein’s nefarious issues.”
Right.
People just give you private jets to use for nothing.
In that case, you’ll have to hold Trump to the same standard.
I don’t know what’s going on with RFK. He wrote a book exposing Fauci, and no-one’s addressing it in public. But at the same time he seems like a “Split the vote” candidate.Very hard to say, but that title sensationalizes things.
UM, HELLO. His wife had some sort of relationship with Ghislaine?! Gee, um, am I the first person to notice the implication? Please tell me I am not. Not again, ugh.
RFK JR. FAMOUSLY TREATED THAT WOMAN LIKE GARBAGE NEAR THE END OF HER LIFE, TO WHERE SHE COMMITTED SUICIDE, THEN HE WAS EVEN CRUEL TO HER *AFTER* SHE DIED, BY MOVING HER GRAVE TO SOME HIDDEN PART OF THE COMPOUND.
Why?
Duh.
We here should be able to guess.
BECAUSE SHE WAS A CABAL “JEWISH GIRLFRIEND” SABOTEUR, or controlled by Cabal without her awareness (that’s a thing, trust me, I just had a girlfriend like that) but either way she must have been a RANCID CUNT to him, ultimately, she would have appeared to him, whether she herself realized it or not, as a TRAITOR. That’s why he hated her. Right? No?
Look, either the Kennedys are on the whole Grotesquely Mindbogglingly Evil or they generally truly represent the Best America Has To Offer, as far as the fake and gay Jewish actors we’re allowed to have as leadership. The best we’ve got wouldn’t amount to much. The least bad, more like. Litotes.
JFK Jr. called Biden a traitor, remember?
How far ahead of the curve was THAT judgment, hmm?
These are people who might be douchebags but still possess a moral compass, however skewed, and however many of them have been totally hopelessly corrupted, as appears to be the case with, say, Caroline…unless her enthusiasm for blatantly evil swine is part of some kayfabe, I dunno.
But look, this RFK on Epstein’s plane thing not only winds up exonerating him for the plane rides themselves, it also would thoroughly explain his seemingly inexplicably cruel behavior to the first wife…IN JUST SUCH A WAY THAT WE HERE WOULD PROBABLY BE THE ONES WHO’D UNDERSTAND THE SCENARIO BEST. How about that, lol. Go figure.
And did anyone else notice she was a spooky near-dead-ringer for Jackie O? Like, it looked like she was his first cousin. Maybe she was! Them bloodline fetishists are kinky motherfuckers.
Miles Mathis is MOSTLY right about the Kennedys, I think.
They would represent Cabal Dissidents.
Which is a Hollywood trope, sure. But maybe for a reason.
Maybe there’s a Relatively Good Apostate in half the paranormal spy thriller stories about such cabals, like the Whitehat Mason in the movie Skulls or whoever the conscientious objector and turncoat in the X-Files cabal was…because they exist? I dunno.
TLDR: Mary Richardson Kennedy was obviously a Cabal plant.
The Deep State described:
From: Holy Serpent of the Jews
It’s complete and total nonsense. There simply are not enough Jews in America to create the observed effects. Cabal requires far too many people in far too many mid management and administrative positions. It requires corrupt cops, corrupt teachers, etc., etc. not enough Jews for all of those positions.
The real muscle and dirty work comes out of the Vatican.
The organized Jews have been doing it since long before the Vatican existed — or better stated — since before they created the Vatican. And there are enough of them to run all the nefarious goy traitors and useful idiots involved in the cabal and all it’s works. Think about it. Freemasons! Universities! “Entertainment!” Media!
Also, Mark Twain thought there were *many* more Jews in America than they were letting on. As a martial artist might put it: “Control the choke-points = control the big dummy.
https://x.com/APhilosophae/status/1732910829110956033?s=20
https://archive.ph/EuH6q
Deep dive on James Yoo and his connections to signals intelligence via Global Crossing, an inter-continental fiber-optics company.
Thank you to Anonymous for being very perceptive. I hope your week is going well. I hope you know that I am praying for your safety, and for strength for you. It’s coming up on Christmas. I wish you all good gifts in abundance.
“… but when [Q] posted things like this, which sound totally nuts, but which are uncanny in their accuracy and truth, you are forced to think, why would he post thi- …”
Post 925 … sterling silver is .925 fine.
You need silver bullets to hunt vampires.
As for the date?
Maybe they’ll hold the Speaker of the House down in his seat … shades of 1629.
We’re already in the Personal Rule period, after all.
Excellent video for what it’s all about featuring the Rothschild’s favorite artist:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/DQRMInvQb3CS/
Did we lose comments after the site migration?
I was searching for a phrase that should have shown up in comments. Landed on an article from November this year and the article had zero comments.
We may have lost some, but just because they failed to get linked to the right article. What article?
Searched the word “cosmic”
first result was November 25
https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/news-briefs-11-25-2023/
scroll to the bottom, zero comments
actually what I wanted to find was any comments about cosmic death fungus. Pretty sure it has come up in comments.
https://developer.wordpress.org/cli/commands/post/list/
https://developer.wordpress.org/cli/commands/comment/recount/
Try it with your test environment after a mass relink.
Thank you!
Your major remaining problem has the following flavour: find comments for which the reference to the post ID is invalid or mismatched.
One way to do this is to dump a list of valid post IDs and to craft an SQL statement that dumps comment data that does not match any known post ID.
So you dump the post IDs, save them to a file, turn that into one ginormous NOT IN clause in SQL, and that leads to your list of orphaned comments by parent post ID.
Or you just do an inner join and let the DB do the work, which would require you to think like a DBA and is perhaps not as necessary or desirable as brute force hacking up a solution with a silly huge SQL statement or a temporary table.
For example: via batch script, insert into a temp table all of the post IDs from wp_posts, then insert all of the post IDs from wp_comments, then delete from the temp table all of the post IDs from wp_posts, and what remains matches your orphaned comments by unreferenced post IDs.
It’s basically just brute force application of set theory.
This is old but possibly relevant at least as a way to think about the problem:
https://dba.stackexchange.com/questions/90453/joining-wordpress-comments-with-post-titles-from-mysql-db
Beyond this, referential integrity of comment parents may also be hosed, and so this could be the thing that allows you to see the scale of the problems in order to determine if the edge cases are small enough that they can be dealt with via manual DB field massaging.
Did you verify it had no comments by scrolling down?
Or did it just say 0 comments?
Because the comment counts got reset with the recent changes.
https://tomrenz.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-white-lung-disease
” First off, Pneumonia is a disease which means it is a collection of symptoms. The symptoms are caused by some underlying factor. I know some of my readers don’t like germ theory but I’m sticking with it because it is an unnecessary fight for my point. The consensus view is that viruses, bacteria, and sometimes environmental factors can cause pneumonia whose symptoms are generally resulting from fluid in the lungs stemming from those underlying issues. This is all pretty straight forward and requires no scientific understanding. The CDC lays it out for you below:
(CDC screenshot)
I want to point out the ventilator-associated pneumonia which is critical to understanding the hospital murder protocols but for purposes of this article the most relevant underlying cause is in the sentence following the bullet points – Mycoplasma pneumoniae.
This CDC screenshot above talks about other infections that cause pneumonia and is relevant because there are a ton of causes and it is not uncommon for pneumonia to be prevalent during cold and flu season. What is important is below:
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Atypical pneumonia has some different characteristics than “typical pneumonias” such as it can appear different on a chest X-ray than typical pneumonia. While not mentioned here, my understanding is that the appearance on a chest X-ray is more white in the lungs… AKA white lung disease (which is a new and made-up term to scare people). The screenshot from THE CDC below is also important:
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Here we see that Mycoplasma pneumonia is one of these atypical types of pneumonia that causes the “white lung disease” X-rays. We also see that it is typically “mild” and also known as walking pneumonia (which sounds substantially less scary than white lung disease). Now let’s bring this back around to the problem no one wants to talk about.
The image above is from the Pfizer Adverse Event reports. There appears to be a causal relationship between the mRNA (actually modRNA) vaccines and Mycoplasma pneumonia. My best guess is that this is because the spike proteins that your body makes after being injected with the COVID jabs attack your lungs in the same way COVID does… the spike is the same pathogen in both. I will grant you that I’m not a scientist but I’d love someone to give me a real explanation as to why the spike is dangerous in COVID and not in the vaccines (the reality is that it’s deadly in both). Since I don’t expect this to happen I’m standing behind this conclusion.
The uptick in walking pneumonia (the super scary white lung disease) is due to the COVID jabs. If you got the jab or the flu shots that have the COVID jabs mixed in then you are probably at a higher risk of respiratory illness than you would be otherwise. I’ve been saying since the summer of 2021 – get the jab get COVID and keep getting COVID. This is not a surprise, it is not unexpected, and the fact that they are throwing this up against the wall just in time for the 2024 election should be enough to tell you all you need to know about this. The only real question is whether we are stupid enough to fall for it again… I say we make #HellNo trend again on Twitter.“
To your last point, I know several people who have been vaxed, who keep getting Covid over and over.
And then someone hearing that person has Covid again, will say “yes people, be sure to get your vaccinations and boosters so you don’t get sick”.
From what I see, everybody who gets a cold or the flu just calls it COVID. And of course, they get a false positive from the non-test to confirm it.
Good one! And find somebody who hasn’t been vaxed who has died of this special pneumonia. That said everyone can probably think of one or two very elderly men who died of normal pneumonia, going way back.