British NHS To Maybe Ban Surgeries For Smokers And The Obese

A sign they are running out of money:

The NHS will ban patients from surgery indefinitely unless they lose weight or quit smoking, under controversial plans drawn up in Hertfordshire.

The restrictions – thought to be the most extreme yet to be introduced by health services – immediately came under attack from the Royal College of Surgeons.

Its vice president called for an “urgent rethink” of policies which he said were “discriminatory” and went against the fundamental principles of the NHS.

In recent years, a number of areas have introduced delays for such patients – with some told operations will be put back for months, during which time they are expected to try to lose weight or stop smoking.

But the new rules, drawn up by clinical commissioning groups (CCGs) in Hertfordshire, say that obese patients “will not get non-urgent surgery until they reduce their weight” at all, unless the circumstances are exceptional.

The criteria also mean smokers will only be referred for operations if they have stopped smoking for at least eight weeks, with such patients breathalysed before referral.

Government programs spend as prolifically as they can when the money flows freely because everybody who has any authority wants to enlarge their own fiefdoms and power. This restriction is actually a sign of massive shortage behind the scenes.

Some say this collapse will be slow, but I see a mechanism where it might not be. The shift from r to K is accelerated by the fact that by the time the conditions have shifted enough to turn r-psychologies into K’s, the only thing keeping resources flowing is the irresponsibility of r.

Long before conditions are bad enough to turn all of society’s psychologies K, conditions would collapse everything if people just began to act K. As an example, after the Great Depression, there were people who would never trust a bank again. That is K-selected, keenly aware of future risks, and driven to look at future outcomes more than short term gains. If right now people realized the banks couldn’t be trusted, bonds were scams that would eventually default, and that someday everyone will need a mass of savings just to survive, they would pull their wealth out of the system, begin hoarding their wealth, and trigger the collapse now. Because it would be triggered early, the collapse would be less horrific, and people would be better prepared to deal with it and rebuild in the aftermath.

But people now lack that K-selected caution, so the economic foundations will continue to deteriorate as leaders mortgage what little is left of our future to prop things up now. And people will leave their money in the system propping it up until the collapse is forced by the unavoidable circumstances produce by the massive deterioration that will happen between now and then. Then, people will begin to turn K, and the mix of their K-behaviors and the conditions so horrific they drive r’s to K, will combine to produce a shocking collapse, probably initiated with bank runs.

I think collapses can be slow, when they happen in small nations which can draw resources from far more massive and richer nations, and whose citizens have some measure of K-psychologies to start the collapse sooner, and help them handle the rigors of it stoically.

But when the nations collapsing are world superpowers whose citizens are r-strategists, I think the collapses are likely to be massive and fast. If you look at the crash of ’29, with stock brokers jumping out of windows and bank failures sweeping across the nation as panic sets in, I think that is borne out.

I just can’t see what is coming this time starting slowly, or being non-violent. It has been building too long, we have gone far too r, and by the time it hits, we will have leveraged everything which might have blunted the impact.

Tell everyone about r/K Theory, because our collapse will be epic among collapses

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Andy
Andy
6 years ago

Europe is basicly a filthy nursing home at this point and you still talk about a collapse. Ever seen a riot in a nursing home? There will be no collapse. You already have parts of london where the british government doesn’t exist anymore. At the point where the benefits payments don’t come anymore, you already have a new power in place that creept through the institutions before and overtook a vacuum before there was any change of real collapse. In this regards the islamic terrorists are our biggest blessing yet cause they bring the violence option back on the menu. Who else would do it? Sick smokers who figure out they don’t get an operation after they paid 75% taxes on their fags? Old people who just wanna die anyway? Romes Plebs and Urban Poor fueled the barbarian armies when rome could no longer feed and entertain them and that took a long time. Today you have harvest robots and internet streaming, meaning the plebs will never run out of shit to feed on. And the 9 out of 10 plebs who think they are K and such badass wolf warriors and all are afraid of the cops and the tax authorities and death. Nothing will collapse here. We will just wither away in our filthy nursing home beds riddled with piss and shit.

Ron
Ron
Reply to  Andy
6 years ago

Nothing is hopeless. Nothing. There is no such thing as despair in this world. God is everywhere, “if I go down into Sheol, there you are”. As bad as the situation is, even this can be repaired. We don’t think so, because even the best of us have lost our natural masculine strength. The natural strength of men to Hope and Love. That strength comes through when the people we love need us.

You are from England, your people are known for their great courage in the face of adversity. You’ve pulled through worse, you’ll pull through this.

Andy
Andy
Reply to  Ron
6 years ago

I never said its hopeless cause england going down the drain is my biggest hope. I don’t care about your concept of “god” that you want help from nor i’am from england. I want england to burn and these people to die. Thats what i want. But there won’t be a mad max collapse. There will be no violence and action untill one of us plants a carbomb or goes Charlie on some Media Offices.

english nazi
english nazi
Reply to  Andy
6 years ago

Reminiscent though not directly related: (Murdoch Murdoch’s animated ‘Brexit’)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/K7gxJryxcdCp/

Pitcrew
Pitcrew
6 years ago

NHS is bust, no Brexit action, Mohammad is the most common infant boys name. Will the band keep playing on the way down?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOwXwB5wf5w

Andy
Andy
Reply to  Pitcrew
6 years ago

Privatizing the NHS was a demand of the european union towards the UK since decades and so they rather brexitet then privatizing this bankrupt mess, because they are worthless peasants who love living in shit. And when you have 100 newborns and three of them get the name Mohammed and the 97 others get some hyper individualized postmodern bullshit ofcourse mohammed is the most common boys name, cause these ragheads call every one of their spawns mohammed in all its different writings. The only song the band plays till the end is some war drums they made out of the skin of the last englishman when he was hunted down and pierced with spears and his last dying words from his lipstick mouth were “i’m not raycizst mate”.
Fuck this whole country. I wanna see it burn.

tesla369
tesla369
6 years ago

So far we’ve had hippies take to the streets, the black man take to the streets, women take to the streets, gays and lesbians take to the streets. Nothing happened…… they can quell these easily by throwing a few extra fake resources their way.

The Shit will Hit the Fan when MEN take to the streets, this has always been the case. Real men (the last of the K selects) are about to be discriminated against hard in the next 5 years, When the point comes that they all look at each other and go “fuck this shit, lets fuck this place up”, will signify the kick off point for the apocalypse.

Look for it and you will see.

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jb
jb
6 years ago

Death panels.