Can The Federal Government Grab You Off The Street, Lock You Up, And Vaccinate You?

The answer is yes:

Public health emergency as used in this part means any communicable disease event as determined by the CDC Director with either documented or significant potential for regional, national, or international communicable disease spread or that is highly likely to cause death or serious illness if not properly controlled…

HHS/CDC recognizes that the right to engage in travel within the United States is a privilege of national citizenship protected by the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the U.S. Constitution, as well as an aspect of liberty protected by the Due Process Clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. See Jones v. Helms, 452 U.S. 412, 418 (1981). However, this right is not unqualified and travel restrictions based on the threat posed by communicable diseases are valid. See Zemel v. Rusk, 381 U.S. 1, 15-16 (1965) (“The right to travel within the United States is of course also constitutionally protected . . . [b]ut that freedom does not mean that areas ravaged by flood, fire or pestilence cannot be quarantined when it can be demonstrated that unlimited travel to the area would directly and materially interfere with the safety and welfare of the area or the Nation as a whole.”). Furthermore, HHS/CDC will afford individuals subject to these travel restrictions with adequate due process through the previously mentioned written appeals process…

CDC may enter into an agreement with an individual, upon such terms as the CDC considers to be reasonably necessary, indicating that the individual consents to any of the public health measures authorized under this part, including quarantine, isolation, conditional release, medical examination, hospitalization, vaccination, and treatment; provided that the individual’s consent shall not be considered as a prerequisite to the exercise of any authority under this part.

All of this is mostly boilerplate, which if the shit really hit the fan wouldn’t matter one way or another. If there is a real Hot Zone scenario, they will do whatever they want, and apologize later.

There was this interesting case described:

Both provisions were necessary to prevent transmission of monkeypox, a rare, zoonotic, viral disease that occurs primarily in the rain forest countries in Central and West Africa. (A zoonotic disease is a disease of animals that can be transmitted to humans under natural conditions.) The illness was first noted in monkeys in 1958, but, in Africa, serologic evidence of monkeypox infection has been found in many other species, including some species of primates, rodents, and lagomorphs (which includes such animals as rabbits). African rodents are considered to be the most likely natural host of the monkeypox virus. [165]

The temporary ban was later codified as a permanent restriction on importation of African rodents and other animals that may carry the monkeypox virus with an exception, which allows importation for scientific, exhibition, or educational purposes if a written request for such importation is approved CDC (existing 42 CFR 71.56)…

The 2003 monkeypox outbreak resulted in a total of 71 cases that were clinically or laboratory confirmed. [174] Among the 71 total cases, 16 patients (23%) with monkeypox infections were admitted to hospitals for treatment or for isolation. Two patients had serious clinical illness, but subsequently recovered and no deaths associated with monkeypox were reported. [175] The two severe cases occurred in children who required intensive care, one for severe monkeypox-associated encephalitis (encephalitis is an inflammation of the brain), and one with profound painful cervical (neck) and tonsillar adenopathy (adenopathy refers to an enlargement of the glands) and diffuse pox lesions, including lesions in the throat. [176] Otherwise, the clinical symptoms of monkeypox included skin lesions with fever (temperature above 38 °C, 100.4 °F), drenching sweats and severe chills, headache, sore throat and persistent coughing. Other less common symptoms included lymphadenopathy (swollen glands), mild chest tightness, tonsillar erosion, general body malaise, myalgia (muscle aches), back pain and nasal congestion. [177]

The number of monkeypox cases was increasing over an approximately 3-week period from the identification of the first case on May 15, 2003 through the week ending June 8, 2003. The number of cases declined subsequently; the date of onset for the last case was June 20, 2003. [178] In the United States, individuals apparently began contracting monkeypox, primarily as a result of contact with prairie dogs that had contracted monkeypox from diseased African rodents. Investigations indicate that a Texas animal distributor imported a shipment of approximately 800 small mammals from Ghana on April 9, 2003, and that shipment contained 762 African rodents, including rope squirrels (Funiscuirus sp.), tree squirrels (Heliosciurus sp.), Gambian giant pouched rats (Cricetomys sp.), brushtail porcupines (Atherurus sp.), dormice (Graphiurus sp.), and striped mice (Hybomys sp.). Some animals were infected with monkeypox, and CDC laboratory testing confirmed the presence of monkeypox in several rodent species, including one Gambian giant pouched rat, three dormice, and two rope squirrels. Of the 762 rodents from the original shipment, 584 were traced to distributors in six states. A total of 178 African rodents could not be traced beyond the point of entry in Texas because records were not available. [179]

Importing rats and other exotic rodents from Africa would seem unwise.

Some believe smallpox began its life as mousepox somewhere in the Nile River Valley. Somehow it got into humans, adapted to overcome the host immune response, and it was off to the races. Saddam was trying to exploit that adaptability of pox viruses by “adapting” camelpox to infect humans more effectively. I always assumed that meant he was kidnapping Shiites off the street, infecting them, sacrificing them, harvesting their livers, extracting viruses, and then repeating the process with the harvested virus samples.

Obviously, the big heads probably know what is coming. Already we are noticing an uptick in interesting pathogens suddenly popping up where they never previously seemed to show up. If you look at history, this seems to accompany these periods of societal decline.

My own theory is, if you take a human machine that is accustomed to starving and fighting in K-selection, their system will have adapted the immune response epigenetic markers to burn off genes at a certain level under the stress of starvation, fear, and so on. If you then place that machine in r-selection, with no stress, good nutrition, no fear, etc, it will adapt epigenetically, to slow the burn rate on genes that amp up immunity, and increase the burn rate of genes that probably sacrifice immunity for growth and reproduction. The machine can do this, because it has it easy, with good energy and nutrition. So it is more efficient to not work too hard at supporting immunity. Plus with everyone well fed with little stress, illnesses are more rare, and probably less adapted to humans as a result. It may even reduce auto-immune-issues, who knows.

Now if you take that r-human machine, epigentically adapted to devote less energy to immunity in times of plenty, and you plunge it into the shortage and stress of K-selection, it is going to be programmed to burn genes in such a way as to weaken immunity too much for the nutritionally restricted and stressful times it is enduring. It will end up immuno-compromised, which writ large, produces a population that is just waiting for a new pathogen to get into it, and begin adapting to overcome human immunity. Eventually, the epigenetics will catch up, but there is probably a brief period in there where pathogens can get a foothold more easily. Add in r-strategists on the move, spreading disease, and you have a real Apocalypse in the making.

This “grab us up off the street, shoot us up with a vaccine, and lock us away” is a great policy, if the next hemorrhagic fever is cooking, and we need to stop it before it kills off the human race. The problem is where that line will be drawn. I could see a vaccine maker trying to lean on the Senators and Representatives they contribute to, to get a moderately bad flu classed as a disease worth implementing this policy.

If there were a vaccine for Zika now, and our corrupt government had gotten just a little more corrupted under Hillary, could they implement this now? Would the private sector Biotech companies, looking at hundreds of billions of dollars in potential profits, try to massage the facts, contribute a few hundred million to the Clinton Foundation, get Zika reclassed by the President a quarantinable, and influence government that way?

I don’t know, but I am glad Donald is taking this machine over, as the Zero Hour approaches.

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7 years ago

[…] Can The Federal Government Grab You Off The Street, Lock You Up, And Vaccinate You? […]

ACThinker
ACThinker
7 years ago

You wonder? I mean in 1920’s the SCOTUS decided that we could have forced sterilizations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell
Cause Justice Holmes is such a great guy.

There are similar for vaccinations. OTOH, doesn’t a K group have the right to say “ok no sick people allowed in, and if you want in, you must be treated first.” Heck a K group would say that because the outsider has no rights, and with scarce resources you don’t want to waste them on a sick person, especially a sick that can be avoided (STD’s anyone?). Ellis Island was in part used to prevent TB and other disease from entering the country. While there were still cases of TB, but far fewer than other areas. USSR used to and maybe Russia still does inoculate against TB.
The very word “Quarentine” comes from the word for ’40’ in the romance languages. Referring to the 40 days a ship would have to stay held up in port before its crew could interact with a town during the time of the Plagues. K types don’t give a damn about the niceties when it comes to keep the group healthy.